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"Appointment in Samarra"

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Episode Synopsis: Dean makes a deal with Death to help him get Sam's soul back, but Sam decides that he doesn't want it back and enlists help to keep it that way...

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David

Easily one of my favorite episodes. This show has one of if not the best personification of death I've seen in fiction.

Mishalangelo's Apprentice

Now because of Dean the kid and her dad had false hope and unexpected death, a person died for nothing (cause they had to kill the girl anyway) and probably the kid's doctor will lose his mind and possibly his job due to lawsuits opened by the dad.

Melanie LeBlanc

Sam and Dean are good examples of what the little girl's life would be like. Since Sam first came back, then Dean, SO many people have died because of the apocalypse. Dean sold his soul for Sam to come back then went to hell where he broke the first seal. A lot of people died in the breaking of the seals. How many people died because Sam drained them of demon blood (at least one, that poor nurse) instead of exorcising them, and that's before he freed Lucifer. Not counting the innocents that soulless Sam admitted to letting die to get the job done while he was hunting without Dean this year. There's a natural order, the brothers keep violating it and people keep dying. Like the show said in season 2: What's dead should stay dead. Although, I'm kinda glad the boys are cursed because, otherwise we wouldn't have a show and I love when Dean cries

Janet Shearer

Great episode but am I the only one too focused on episode 15.

JC00

Balthazar said he needed to commit patricide and then implied because Bobby was like a father to Sam that he would do.

Vel

It started with Dean's life being saved in (S1 Faith) by the reaper who was bound. John Winchester then sacrificed himself to keep Dean alive, and that was a major plot point in S2, including the AU where Mary lived, and they never became hunters (all the lives they saved being reversed was partly why Dean knew he couldn't stay, though ultimately, it was about Sam) And keep in mind, it's not just people dying. It's all of those who will never exist and fulfill their potential or purpose because someone else died prematurely. For instance, imagine if Marie Curie had never been born...?

Vel

A whole generation of people was literally wiped out because the nurse died.

Vel

This episode really hits home for me, because the concepts are very personal to my own life experience. I agree that Death is something we can never escape, and it's also what gives our lives meaning to a large degree. I've always been the "look for the silver lining" person, and have had many conversations with those close to me on how or why we naturally find ourselves with the perspective we have. However, regardless of the nature vs nurture + life experience argument, I do know that I would not have my husband or my children had my sister not passed away. He was a close friend and someone who gave her a roof over her head when she was pregnant and fleeing an abusive home situation several years prior to her accident. I met him on the first anniversary of her passing, six months after divorcing my first husband...and we've been together ever since (17 years!). It took a long time to work through all of that, but it's par for the course, and I will never take that for granted. And most importantly, no one will ever convince me that everything is a coincidence or that synchronicities, miracles and even magic doesn't exist. I was waiting for you to notice Robert Englund! HA! With as many times I've seen this episode, this is the first time I've ever caught Balthazar saying he wanted Sam IN HIS BED..!? I'm usually bristling over the "hate banging" line and never picked up on it. It made me love Balthy a little more than I already do...because MEEEE TOOO! LMAO!

Toasted Toad

I haven't had time to watch the full episode with you guys yet, so my comment is based only on your comments. I love this episode, as I think it works on two levels. First, the immediate drama of the two storylines - Dean and Sam/Bobby.  But also, we get its effect on our attitude towards one of the major aspects of the season so far - Soulless!Sam. A lot of people enjoy Soulless!Sam. I know that you guys did, and so did I. They have done it so well that we've been led to question whether Dean is right in thinking Sam needs his soul back. Even Bobby has questioned it. Only Dean has never wavered, and it's not just because he wants his Sammy back. He doesn't trust him as a Hunter either. Sam has been oblivious to certain things which he would have picked up on with his normal moral compass to guide him (e.g. how dodgy the Campbells are). Now we see outright how essential it is to restore Sam's soul - he was actually prepared to kill Bobby. He simply did not care about him. Or anyone. How long would it take for Sam to become an outright monster? Is he one already? Sometimes, when SPN wants to make a point (e.g. Sam needs his soul back), the programme can get so bogged down with the necessity of doing that that they forget to make the episode interesting and emotionally satisfying. I think that in this case, they managed to do it the right way. The drama flowed naturally.  There aren't two timelines. There's just the one where Dean did what he did. It's not as though he went back in time and changed things. They didn't have him going back to the beginning and making a different decision with the girl. He saved her and then killed her. What they toy with though is the concept of 'fate' - the girl was 'supposed' to die. Dean's decision to let her live caused a death which would not otherwise have occurred, and the destruction of another life. Had she continued to live, there would have been more and more death. Dean killing her finished that 'curse', as it were.

Toasted Toad

Not necessarily. They might not have had kids. But I get your point.

Toasted Toad

Thanks for sharing - very moving. I'm glad good came out of tragedy for you.

Michele

I guess is can be debated as to what would happen if you change things like in this episode. It seemed to me that Dean chose to take the girl's because it's what he should have done in the first place. Whether that would stop any further deaths or not isn't really clear to me. Sam and Dean have both thwarted death a bunch of times, so there would be domino effects all over the place for that alone. Guess that's why Death said to dean that comment about having to clean up other people's mess. He wanted Dean to see that death isn't something to trifle with. This show can mess with our head's at times. I'm not sure that the girl needed to die to finish the death domino. And the husband was still alive after the crash. They showed him looking at dean as he vanished when he put on the ring. So I assumed he lived. Yet another episode that you have to rewatch to catch everything and process. I love that about this show!