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Jake had no idea what it meant to take a walk down memory lane, but there was no way he would reject such a proposal.

“Where are we going?” Jake asked curiously. Seeing as he was talking to a level 9 G-grade human and that his Pulse of Perception covered the entire city and far beyond, Jake had a hard time seeing anywhere they could go... which just proved his lack of imagination.

“It’s not a question of where but when,” the First Sage smiled as he motioned Jake to follow. “This world of your creation is truly peculiar. The Records are flowing freely, time malleable to the slightest touch. When you use the skill regularly, have you been able to experience the same vision multiple times in a row?”

“Yeah, they tend to repeat a few times, giving me more time to understand what the system is trying to show me,” Jake nodded.

“I see... I apologize in advance, but I already interrupted that mechanism to stretch out this singular branch of time,” the First Sage casually said. “So you will only be able to see and experience things once this time around.”

Jake just nodded, unsure what to say. It was probably better only experiencing things once, though, and honestly, while Jake did find some enjoyment from constantly asking questions, he was also keenly aware that so far, he had benefitted very little if at all. Also, one more thing had been bothering him.

“Will I even be able to talk about our encounter today? As you said, things regarding you are considered Forbidden Knowledge,” Jake asked.

“It gladdens me to say that I do not know. My status has changed several times already. I believe partly because it was manifested that the two of us would meet, making such a thing required,” the First Sage answered.

“It changed?” Jake asked, perplexed. “It’s getting really hard to believe you actually died and aren’t just some freaky time traveler.”

The First Sage chuckled, shaking his head. “As I said, my Path ended the day I was slain by my disciple. There is a big difference between knowing something and having truly experienced something. To experience it, you must have, in some aspect, taken part, thus mixing your Records with the scenario. My Records in your time only live on through those who remember me, not any of the actions I can do. Until now, it seems.”

“So, not time travel?” Jake confirmed semi-jokingly.

“Not in the way you are thinking, though it could be argued that me sending knowledge and Records from my time to yours through this encounter is a form of time travel,” the First Sage shook his head. “I said it already, but I do find it peculiar the system even allows this... though it is with guardrails and our conversation more like than not made Forbidden Knowledge, making it hard to divulge and spread any of the Records I share with you. The only one I would guess you can still speak to about this is Vilas, but I would safely assume he is the only one, if at all,” the First Sage answers.

“Considering he has a copy of your Bloodline, I would also assume that to be the case,” Jake nodded as he followed after the First Sage, who led him toward the exit of the library building.

The First Sage stopped and turned to look at Jake. “He doesn’t.”

“Huh?” Jake exclaimed. “What do you mean? Bloodline of the Immortal Mind, right? One that gives perfect memory? You even said you both had the same drawback of not being able to forget things with time...”

“It’s the word copy I find issues with,” the First Sage said. “No two Bloodlines can ever be perfectly alike as they merge with the Truesoul of whoever possesses it. Just as the Bloodline molds the person, the person molds the Bloodline. When it comes to the powers of the Bloodlines, yes, they are indeed identical, but that does not mean it’s the same Bloodline, nor are the ways we found to use said Bloodline.”

“I don’t get the distinction...” Jake muttered. “It’s like saying two magic affinities are never the same because two people will always use it differently.”

“And such a saying would be correct. I hope you can come to understand why,” the First Sage merely spoke, motioning for Jake to follow once more.

Jake wanted to keep questioning the man but didn’t as he followed along. They reached the door, and Jake expected them to go back out into the city; however, that wasn’t what happened. Instead, when the First Sage opened the door, a large chamber appeared on the other side. Passing through the door, the First Sage’s appearance also changed slightly as his robe was replaced with a white one, and his unkept looks also got tidied up.

However, what Jake noticed first was how the man’s aura changed, as it had suddenly changed from that of a G-grade straight to E-grade.

[Human – lvl 85]

“Our integration back then was very different from the one you experienced. We had no Tutorials. No guidelines. It was just another average day when suddenly everything changed. I was in the library working the moment mana flooded the universe. My area was lucky, but others not so much as they experienced quite the geographical changes,” the First Sage explained, as he and Jake walked into the large circular chamber.

Through Jake’s Sphere and a Pulse, he knew they were in a tower more than half a kilometer tall. They were not in a city but some kind of castle or fort instead, with only a few supporting buildings below... though it did look like the place had once been a lot busier.

“The small kingdom I hail from was a vassal state of the empire that ruled our continent at the time. Seeing as I proved myself exceptional, I soon traveled to the empire as they were recruiting anyone talented to try and understand how our world had changed,” the First Sage continued, leading Jake to a small balcony that gave them a great look at the surrounding area.

“In retrospect, it was impressive the empire survived the integration. It lost huge swaths of land, but the emperor was decisive and embraced the system quicker than nearly anyone else. He encouraged exploring the system even after some religious groups called it the work of evil.”

Jake looked at the vast land in front of him and saw it was quite a bit different from where he had first appeared. Large fissures had opened up where had once been farmland, confirmed by Jake still seeing some remnants of farms here and there.

Yet what caught his eye more than anything else was something far in the distance. An area covered in darkness wherefrom Jake felt an ominous aura... one he didn’t expect to feel in a newly initiated world:

Desolation.

“That there is a place known as the Desolates. You can see only the edge of it, but the desolation consumed much of the continent, creating a no-go zone. To be clear, the concept of desolation there is weak enough for D-grades to travel relatively effortlessly. At least the edges of it. It grows more powerful the closer you get to the center,” the First Sage explained, Jake instantly putting two and two together.

“The Viper was known as the Wyvern of the Desolates...”

“Yes, that right there is indeed the birthplace of who will one day be known as the Malefic Viper. Right now, he is simply struggling to survive, being nothing more than a small snake surrounded by far more dangerous predators. His circumstances forced him to develop intelligence and cunning to survive, leading him down a rather unique Path that will one day result in him becoming a dragon.”

“On the day he leaves the planet,” Jake nodded, remembering the mural from the Challenge Dungeon where he began his Path as an Alchemist of the Malefic Viper.

“Indeed,” the First Sage nodded, giving Jake a proud smile. “You know quite a lot about your Patron. Things I wouldn’t expect.”

“Well, he did kind of brag about evolving into a dragon and taking to the stars through a big mural in a Challenge Dungeon... but besides that, is it weird for friends to know each other?” Jake shrugged.

“I guess not,” the First Sage just shook his head as he walked toward the edge of the balcony. Jake followed along without really thinking about it as the old man motioned for Jake to join him in getting on the railing.

Jake did so, and right as he stood on it, the entire railing fell apart, Jake and the First Sage falling along with it as suddenly Jake felt himself far up in the sky freefalling. Beside him, the First Sage had grown once more as his aura changed.

[Human – lvl 141]

Far below them, Jake saw a vast army marching forth, approaching the Desolates.

“As humanity explored and conquered more and more of the world, the Desolates, which was frighteningly close to the empire, quickly became a nuisance... especially as it was spreading. Armies were sent in there to try and find the center and hopefully the source of the desolation, but to no avail.”

Time began to fast-forward as Jake saw the entire army turn to bone that crumbled into dust. Jake and the First Sage also sped up their falling as very quickly they landed on the ground not far from the edge of the desolation.

“After countless expeditions failed, people began to grow panicked, and all of the greatest minds were tasked with trying to find a solution.”

Raising a hand, the First Sage used some kind of magic as a white line was drawn all along the border of the Desolates, stopping the spread and containing the desolation.

“I was the one who found this solution and stopped the spread of the desolation. For this accomplishment, the emperor gave me the title of First Sage,” the man explained his origin story.

“What kind of magic is this?” Jake asked as he looked at the white line. Jake believed he was pretty good at analyzing and recognizing magic, but this white line made no sense to him. It may as well have been made of glowing chalk for all he knew.

“It’s from a Transcendent skill,” the First Sage answered casually. “You can view it as creating the opposite of desolation to cancel out the concept.”

“Was this the first Transcendent skill you made?” Jake questioned with wide eyes.

“No,” the old man just shook his head.

“I see... say, this may be too much to ask, but how many Transcendent skills did you have?” Jake asked, really wanting an answer to that one.

The First Sage smiled at Jake as he looked toward the sky. “The system was a lot more... flawed back in the day. It allowed more than it does in your time, and I happened to be there at a time when more was allowed than usual. I will not say more than that, but suffice to say, I took advantage.”

Jake kept looking at the white line drawn across the land. Seconds passed, and he just couldn’t help himself anymore.

“How strong are you really?” Jake questioned. It was a simplistic and dumb question, but would Jake really be Jake if he hadn’t asked it?

The First Sage didn’t feel strong, yet every fiber of Jake’s being was screaming at him to not try and do anything to the man. It didn’t make any sense, and if Jake didn’t have such an extreme level of trust in his own instincts and intuition, he would have felt like something was wrong with it.

“Another complicated question,” the First Sage sighed. “Before I can even begin to answer, what do you mean when you ask how strong I am? Are you asking about my level? Total stat points? The potency of my aura? Potential? What does it truly mean to be strong?”

“It’s not that complicated,” Jake muttered. “Power is the ability to never allow anyone to trample on you... and for that to be the case, you need to be able to defeat others. To me, the strongest is someone who can defeat everyone else, simple as that.”

“What if there is only one other person who can equally match you in the world? Are you still the strongest?” the First Sage asked. “What if there are eleven others who can equally match you? What if you and these eleven each have a mix of good matchups, meaning you have a higher chance to win against some but not others? Who is the strongest then?”

“You’re talking about the Primordials,” Jake pointed out the obvious.

The First Sage didn’t say anything as he lowered his gaze and looked into the Desolates. “Sometimes, balance is the most important, not determining who is the strongest. Keeping things simple is fine but within reason.”

“Alright, then change the definition to the strongest being someone powerful enough so that no one can kill them,” Jake sighed.

“So, to you, Minaga is the strongest?” the First Sage chuckled before turning serious. “Enough. Being the strongest is a good goal to strive for, but it’s no destination you want to ever reach.”

Jake wanted to ask more but got silent as he decided to take a shot he really didn’t feel would work. “Can you show me the most powerful opponent you ever killed while alive?”

“The strongest... isn’t feasible. Nothing I can show would be useful in the slightest and may even prove detrimental,” the First Sage sighed and shook his head. “The way I defeated powerful opponents is not something that can be replicated, nor anything you can learn from.”

“Isn’t that up to me to determine?” Jake asked a bit defyingly. If there was one thing Jake was proud of, it was his Perception and ability to analyze things using it. It was the sole reason why Path of the Heretic-Chosen had been such an awesome skill for him in the first place... and to see a feat of strength from the First Sage, who Jake felt very damn certain was fucking overpowered had to be beneficial... right?

Oh, how wrong he was.

“Fine,” the First Sage sighed again. “I can show you something as we jump forward in time more than I would prefer. I will also offer no explanation after as we get back on track and continue our journey down memory lane. Agree?”

“Agree,” Jake said, falsely believing he had just gotten some kind of victory.

“Let’s go, then,” the First Sage said. “What we will see next is a memory of mine, and we will both have to be non-present for it.”

Jake wasn’t sure what the old man meant by this as he walked forward, crossing over the white line leading into the Desolates. The second his foot stepped down on the gray and dead ground, the two of them appeared in the middle of... nothing.

Pure darkness all around, except for the First Sage’s body slightly glowing. He and Jake had both turned into ghostly forms as they floated there, Jake unsure what he was supposed to see, and really surprised to see them in space. C-grades usually didn’t explore space, and this wasn’t just some solar system exploration either... this was deep space.

“One of the areas known as a great void. While not actually part of the Void, the concept has begun to bleed through here,” the First Sage said, offering the only explanation he would give for what happened next.

As if on cue, a figure appeared in the distance. Jake saw another – a tangible – version of the First Sage walking through space as every step brought him forward a distance Jake couldn’t even properly measure. He was fast... way too fucking fast. Yet Jake distinctly felt this version of the First Sage was indeed still only a C-grade, and to his surprise, even Identify worked.

[Human – lvl 349]

The First Sage kept traveling forward at speed Jake doubted even an S-grade Sandy could match, as suddenly he stopped and turned his head.

“How bothersome,” the First Sage muttered, yet he seemed as if he had expected what happened next to happen.

A crack in nothingness formed as something came out. A tendril of pure nothingness stretched through, tearing the void as something sought to emerge. Jake instantly felt a headache coming on as he stared at these tendrils, but the ghostly version of the First Sage waved his hand as what looked like a glass panel appeared in front of Jake, allowing him to see what was about to happen without taking any damage from viewing what Jake instinctively knew was a Void Dweller.

It was a being comparable to a god... a creature that gods who traveled through the void feared. Tearing through space and time, the creature slowly began to emerge, its body struggling to maintain itself in this semi-void area of space.

The C-grade First Sage looked at this creature emerge as he spoke.

“Slow.”

Jake felt the entire world warp around the First Sage as if time itself slowed down in his immediate surroundings. Just in time, too. A tendril from the Void Dweller shot forward; Jake only able to register it happening due to the warped time.

What was left of space trembled and shattered as the First Sage was about to be struck as he spoke.

“Delay.”

The tendril didn’t even touch the First Sage, as his entire body was atomized from merely being close to the Void Dweller. One moment, he was there, and the next, he was simply erased by the powers of the void... yet his presence remained... his death delayed.

“Pause.”

Calmly, his voice echoed through the void, unable to be suppressed by even a being with the powers of a god. A faint outline of the First Sage formed where he had been killed only moments prior as he lifted a finger and pointed toward the Void Dweller.

“Reversal.”

The tentacles of the half-emerged Void Dweller stopped moving entirely... and a second later, its body began to drift, getting torn apart by space as energy had left its being. The creature’s body had suffered no damage... yet Jake knew.

Its soul had been extinguished... the fate of the dead First Sage shared with the Void Dweller.

“Return.”

For a final time, the voice of the First Sage echoed as his atomized body gathered into one again, forming his body. With a wave of his hand, a new robe appeared on his body as he turned and stepped down again, continuing his journey as the slain Void Dweller floated behind him while slowly disintegrating. The entire encounter had only taken a few seconds.

Jake could only stare, barely able to comprehend what he’d seen... but he did know one thing.

Every single word spoken during that encounter had been a Transcendent Skill... and the First Sage had long transcended beyond the concept of merely being overpowered.

Comments

Connor

Thanks for the chapter

BumAssBumAss

Thanks for the chapter

Unlisted Pokémon Hudson

The first sage feels actually just too powerful. I doubt all the gods in the current multiverse teaming on him can take him out.

Alexander C Hyde

Seeing as he was talking to a level 9 G-grade human and that his Pulse of Perception covered the entire city and far beyond, Jake had a (hard) time seeing anywhere they could go... which just proved his lack of imagination.

Henry

Reminds me a bit of the primal hunter vs valdemar though more extreme.

joel southard

Nice thank you for the chapter

Gavin

He is definitely a library, or records themselves or something. That was kind of terrifying. I also like that Jake is finally being asked to question the purpose of the pursuit of strength.

Beemoss

Tftc

doob

Bro has the power of magical yapping

Nate Slusher

Fun! Thank you. I’m very curious to see what Jake’s final takeaways are from these chapters.

Numbzy

See that's why I don't want Jake to get a transcendence skill. Way too OP and far too much Main Character energy from it. Unless it's a more niche transcendence and it's earned i don't want it.

Noah Mclelland

So he was basically a God, but not in the eyes of the system.

Alexis Cassaigne

If I understand correctly, a Transcendence is the mastery over a concept that goes beyond the bounds of the System. Does the First Sage have something, either it be a Bloodline or a Transcendence, that allows him to master the concept itself of mastering a concept?

Alexander C Hyde

“The small kingdom I hail from was a (vassal)vessel state of the empire that ruled our continent at the time.

eatingpitza314

Isekai protagonist be like

Itsigu

This man just popping transcendent skills like a fat kid with Halloween candy.

Numbzy

I mean yes and no. There is a side of me that enjoys Jake's path of pursuing strength without any true ulterior motive. I do get why some people might get frustrated with it. And I do think it's good that he's challenged on it. But ultimately I hope that doesn't change. There is a simplicity to it that makes it easy to read and understand.

Straat Junon

"“The small kingdom I hail from was a vessel state of the empire that ruled o sour continent at the time." Should be vassal I think?

Noah

He is a pioneer. It's "easy" enough to discover basic arithmetic but good luck if you want to find new applications of mathematics now.

AfroMocha

Thanks for the chapter. Holy fuck

Kain

I mean this isn’t 1 transcendence it’s like 5 + the possibly dozens of others there’s a truly indescribable gulf between this and him getting 1 transcended skill.

TyranT-Rex

I think what really happened is that the boundaries of the system weren't that big in the first era, so there was a lot of room outside of it for the Sage to explore.

Gurel

Damn, first sage is op

Joshua Konieczka

“Vessel state” should be “vassal state”. Tyftc. Loving that Sagey is redefining strength to Jake.

Gavin

I'm not frustrated by it but the pursuit of strength alone is limiting ultimately. The Sage asked a critical series of questions about what strength even means and Jake didn't have a good answer. His definition of strength and resultant goal needs to shift and evolve so he isn't stagnated at later grades. It wasn't a criticism of the story simply a truth that as he grows in concept and breadth he will need to evolve as well.

A. B. Edwards

The First Sage... what a monster. No wonder Villy respects him so much. And sure, his excuse that the System was flawed back then making it easy to make Transcendence skill, I get it. But this is too much. Villy said he had four or five but he used more than that in just this chapter. I bet he has dozens if not hundreds or might even make them on the spot as he needs them.

Numbzy

Yeah, but once you go down that road it's really easy to keep going.

Bi-Dailey

The First ---Sage--- Admin

BumAssBumAss

I wonder when Jake is going to ask Villy's question. At the end maybe?

Kain

So I’m still on my theory and the reason he has this many transcendent skills is because through “remembering” all possible futures he could ever experience he also obtained all possible transcendences he could possibly achieve in those infinite futures all at the same time.

Rick Delallata

Wow, The First Sage was freaking awesome

Straat Junon

"“Agree,” Jake said, falsely believing he had just gotten some kind of victory." "Agreed" seems to fit better here? Not sure if agree if technically wrong though. Tyfc!

TyranT-Rex

I guess this is why Sage told Villy words are important. It reminds me of Inumaki's cursed speech.

Cory Sauls

This meeting with the FS is proving to be more and more interesting than I ever believed we would get to see in the first meeting.

Jake Thorpe

Holy fuck, this guy lived in the bata stage and just dup-glitched as many Transcendent skilles he could think of. This guy didn't just take advantage of the game he fucked the devs wife, stole his car and drove of into the sunset.

Seiryus

holy shit dude's overpowered

Mohammed Sheekh

Jakes getting a Transcendent skill, I can feel it in my bones, I bet his bloodline is taking notes and is 'upgrading'

Lizy Flore

Wth did I just read. You see Jake, that’s why you don’t go around comparing yourself to others. There’s always a bigger fish. ALWAYS. Gosh now I understand Villy’s humility when he talks about him. Also, Jake & FS looking like an impatient child and indulging parent is hilarious 🤣

Sargon Yami

Most knowladge of mathematics prior to 1900 fit into like 10 books. Now you can fill entire libraries only with it. But i get your point

Rahsheem Reid

Him being THE librarian gave him insight and even mastery over words. I wonder if every word he knows is a Transcendent skill. With infinite variations of them when combined..

Drana :D

He is popping Transcendent

Miguel Sanchez

This chapter hit a nail on the head when it comes to the “Use” of a bloodline. Remember CC/EH bloodline is still (possibly) about. The fact the Viper has in essence a “similar” bloodline as the FS but not the same… puts things into perspective. What is he hinting at…

Andromeda Adams

Whoa… I wonder what the first sage will show Jake in his walk down memory lane? Tyftc!

Rahsheem Reid

Yea first sage is absolutely bonkers. The system gave him a op skill. “My every word is a op super power” I’d read that! Zog has to have several side stories to tell by now. I’d definitely read about when the system first integrated. Tftc

NiceTryMate

The First Sage? More like the First Sudo

NoctisMi

That's only because the Sage used 5 and with probably almost no cost at all since the system at that time allowed it. Now the SwordSaint uses his transcendence skill ones and is almost out immediately. You can't compare them. Also Jakes bloodline is so OP it gives him skill upgrades to the point that the system is blocking it to keep it balanced🤷

Ty Cooper

Tftc! Another Banger! Loving this encounter with the FS. Glad he allowed Jake to see him being OP.

Kt-x

Thanks for the chapter!

Dan

The first and strongest transcendent. Never thought the Sage would be THIS powerful, but that's one badass old man!

Michael

I had a feeling the fist sage was going to be in the power realm of backhanding God killings creatures

Rahsheem Reid

First sage is DEFINITELY giving “old wise man make you do lots of chores thinking it’s nothing only to develop exponentially in all areas” . . I bet Jake unlocks his first transcendent skill/skills, upgrades a few legacy skills and hits a few more marks for C grade peak genius.

NiceTryMate

**Reversal** is to undo an action. Maybe **Reflect** or **Reciprocate** instead? Amazing chapter!

Davey876

He hasn't even remembered it yet. It would be just like Jake to forget completely. Also what was the question villy wanted asked?

dragon

Me when the first sage found all the cheat codes before the system patched them out. 🤣

Jonas Larsen

Thanks for the chapter! vessel state

Mike_L

TYFTC

C0bra$

Thank u for the chapter

adastra astra

I understand now why the FS wanted to be killed.... he was so powerful that NOTHING mattered anymore, there was no goal nothing to achieve or compare to because he broke the system

Damian

This man was beyond gods holy shit

Tommy

Yeah I think he saw the future and that he would be the strongest, the primordials would throw themselves at him and die. No balance etc

Abdulaziz ALRumaih

Two things First this is definitely worth the price of admission Secondly Are the only people left from the first era the primordial? As in people who lived through the time of less restriction

Schmidt

He did say that "Being the strongest is a good goal to strive for, but it’s no destination you want to ever reach." probably because he did just that

Hotep Saxis

Yeah. Everyone else would have been dead long ago. The primordials are the only gods who rose during the first era.

Quintuscus

Yeah probably the only ones left looking at the time-scale of it all.

Schmidt

there could have been someone born at the very end of the first era (not born during initialization) who reach godhood in the second era. I think it said that people werent sure if Umbra had done that. But at the start of the second era the primordials were the only Gods

Rui

he is just smart. he understood that the "System" was indeed just a system, and since it was the 1st era, flaws were likely to be there. he was smart enough to understand this and exploting the crap out of it before all the "bugs" were sorted out.

Abdulaziz ALRumaih

That’s what I thought just wanted to make sure So they’re probably even stronger than we think due to experiencing skills and abilities with less restrictions

Lion3125

I actually find it strange that the FS is pushing back on the usage of "copy" that much. If someone hands me their notes and I "copy them down" would they be identical in (functional) information? Yes. Would they be identical in total? Obviously not. The same is true for basically all copies, even purely digital, if you include meta data and other context. "Copy" always just means "identical in fundamentals", whatever the fundamental part is, might be words, might also be something else. The same is happening here. The powers of the bloodline are the same. The rest adapts to the person. I would understand him insisting that they are no "identical copy" but him insisting that they aren't a "copy" in general seems both weird and is plain wrong, because of a misunderstanding in meaning?

Spencer Miller

I’m excited for Jake’s Bloodline’s reaction. It inherently cannot accept a superior. So how in the hell is it going to try and prove that it is at least the equal of the FS?

JJB4345_80_815

Reversal of fate/outcome. The void walker killed the First Sage BUT with "Reversal" the outcome was reversed so that the FS killed the Void Walker.

NiceTryMate

That works! I think. Mostly made the remark because of this sentence “the fate of the dead First Sage shared with the Void Dweller”.

greg belokopitsky

Bet the sage made the whole language of words of power!

MarineDebris

I feel like Jake is trying to make this experience do what all his other Path of the Heretic-Chosen uses have done, and help him with skills, or give him insight into skills, etc. I don't know why he would ever think that is the purpose this time. He's acting like a dumb meathead. The FS is trying to tell you a very important story, show you things that nobody else has seen, and "How strong are you?" "What's the most powerful opponent you ever killed?" These are the questions Jake wants answers to? Really? Who gives a shit?! Whatever this old man wants to share with him will be a million times more impactful than anything Jake can come up with. He just needs to shut up, and show a little of that patience we know he's capable of. Not sure why it's bugging me so much, but it is. We know Jake is hella forgetful, but he's not a moron. At least, I didn't think he was. But thanks for the chapter!

JJB4345_80_815

My first take was: Jake is seriously underutilizing those boots, especially when paired with his "One Step; A Thousand Miles" skill or whatever it has evolved into. If the FS can move faster than Sandy, then both Jake and Sandy can move more quickly. The Transcendent Skill thing might be harder to replicate IF the system has patched the exploit AND refuses to allow Jake to pick at that patch job. The one thing that Jake should be taking away from this is inspiration. He might not be able to replicate what the FS is doing, but maybe he can find his own solution for a similar result.

Ben

We’re ignoring the amount of levels that must have given, right?

JJB4345_80_815

So, were there drawbacks for using a Transcendent Skill back in the day or was that part of the patch job of the system?

Rahsheem Reid

The “just smart” statement is highly downplaying what he was able to do and it shows with what he continues to do throughout history…. The primordials. I can agree with the second Part almost entirely.

Clint

349 is peak C grade. He can’t gain any experience until evolving to B, which he never did.

Clint

He’s not a moron, but he does obsessively focus on things. It’s strength when he needs to spend 40 years without letting his attention wander, but it has its downsides too. And his bloodline makes it hard to accept at a deeper level that the First Sage knows better than he does.

Thomas Todd

There probably were drawbacks but the First Sage thought Villy to find loopholes so he probably has ways to avoid most of them. Villy avoiding the cost for his transcendence via his bloodline seems to be a great example of what sorts of things the First Sage set up

Valhazstromoz

That's the point Jake is simple like valdemar he's not stupid just simple unlike villy or the sage this is totally on character and this is probably the time for some growth on Jake's part

Abriel Blauer

Not sure if I am right or not Every word might have been a different Transcendance But They all seems Time related Reality is based on space and time By seemingly freely manipulating Time, the First Sage was able to manipulate reality itself Which explains a lot of things Including how he was able to reach to Jake How he seems to know everything even after his dead And why he somehow still exists in a way while being dead While being dead, and having ended his Path, he still exist in a way Maybe it's related to his bloodline Even in death he cannot forget about himself Also, does a Universe where someone can freely manipulate reality without any restrains, balance or limit really exists? Does it really have any meaning to live at that point? That would explain why the First Sage choose to die

Clint

I think it’s because his ongoing existence is so rooted in his bloodline. So his identity is tied up in it.

Rahsheem Reid

I like the thinking but reading this chapter, I think the FS knows jakes fighting style already. That why he shut down the fight initially but relented bc he knew Jake would not give up untill he saw for him self (the high perception). The FS combat style can’t help Jake. I think the boots definitely get an upgrade but he also gains insight on transcends skills/ using his bloodline more efficiently and effectively.

Brendan Bowen

Thanks for the Chapter

Shup Idot

vessel state should be vassal state

Endern

I think FS wanted to be killed because his goal was to reach a kind of balance. And let's be frank: with him alive balance was never an option.

Clint

Crazy chap. Love it. It’s amazing how Zog manages to talk all the litrpg archetypes and make them characters in a larger story. It’s true of the strongest people in Jake’s circle, but even more so about the ancient gods and FS. First Sage is the classic “I found an exploit and pushed it to 11” OP protagonist archetype.

Wellshitbrother

I think that is the kinda shit Jake would ask. He's been shown to be super smart and insightful. If your god among gods best friend talks his master up, then your gonna want to see the strong shit he's faced. Plus Jake hasn't really ever been the kind of character to be quiet in the presence of things greater than himself.

Samuel Nelson

"During." They weren't the only from the first era to ascend, just the only ones to do it during the first era.

Doodlenoodle

Do we know what type of «hunter» Jakes bloodline is? There are many types of hunters and if its more human type hunters then using your defeated foes hides bones claws… or even others bloodlines to strengthen your self for the next stronger prey. Its what human hunters did after all. Also wayback when Jakes bloodline acts up and upgrades skills… does it not seem sentient to a point?

Lawrence Dillon

Im itching for jake to get a transcendence from sagey

kinglemur

Damn that’s like what 6 different transcendence skill

brjenness

we know when villy went on a galaxy destroying rampage...but do we know for sure when his wife and child were killed?

Esch

Jake's Hunter's Bloodline type is the Primal one. Okay... Okay... I'll see myself out

Numbzy

That make sense. But I don't see his end goal changing, just the manner in which he gains strength.

Tr0LLach

”If it was me meeting him, I would ask a question I am not willing to share… but if it’s you, I guess I would have you ask him… how come he never found a solution to the one problem that caused his death? Why did someone I do not doubt would have become the first god just… give up? Or… if he even did give up in the first place or had some higher goal in mind…”

Swaggernaut77

The First Sage glazing got me 🫦

Matthew Lemon

I can see where youre coming from but this is legit who Jake is. Just a simple dude. As a random example Pre-system he may have seen a dude with big arms and thought "I wanna arm wrestle that guy" and not "I wanna ask him about his micro/macro/calorie intake and the sort of exercises he does".

Andrew P

I wonder what the cost of all these transcendent skills are?

Tr0LLach

Oh god only 2 more chapters before the break. This one wil hurt.

Tony Breckenridge

I thought Villy was exaggerating speaking of his present self in comparison to the first sage. If I remember right, he indicated he’d still be no match for TFS. now, after learning Villy had smashed through a thousand or more level barriers in godhood, TFS is beyond OP.

BumAssBumAss

In chapter 853, Jake asks villy what he would ask if he has a chance to and villy responds, "how come he never found a solution to the one problem that caused his death? Why did someone I do not doubt would have become the first god just… give up? Or… if he even did give up in the first place or had some higher goal in mind…" Jake also needs to ask more about his boots as they came from the first sage. We will see, obviously Jake is more concerned about getting some enlightenment from this encounter.

Justin Moen

If he’s peak C grade and dies at peak C grade, either this event is close to the time of his death or he remain at 349 for a long time… why? What happens when you evolve to B grade that would be so impactful he chose to hard cap himself there? I assume he knew way before this event takes places in actual time that he would die by the hands of villy. Does it have something to do with needing to be killed? Another evolution gets closer to godhood, closer to immortality, closer to when his spark (Arnold bloodline) is no longer affected by the concept of time??

Justin Moen

Amazing chapter! Love seeing the OP sage! Been waiting for this for so long!!

Stephen Heng

Considering how smart he was, probably knowledge. But since he can’t forget anything, nothing.

brjenness

in a future episode of primal hunter sylphie saves Jake when she finds him talking to the stinky pot only to find out Jake was trying to use words od power to improve a tasty snack for her.

TNT

7th era I would assume. It is when he destroyed a chunk of universe in revenge, and I’d imagine if he destroyed the 7th universe in the 7th era, they were the ones to piss him off.

Hussein Zenki

did a peak c grade just smoke a void being who’s basically a god without even trying? 😭 wtaf and we thought jake was op

Kevin Watson

would a set up where he has a transcendent passive ability related to continued existence through records or memory work? seeing as the system was sorta loose with its skills back in the day, that could’ve been the First’s biggest trick

brjenness

do we know when villy became immune to forbidden knowledge and eversmirk's eraser?

Eiv

Yeah dreading it. Please no cliff 🙈

Alex

I think you are taking a metaphor literally. He was saying that he had faced thousands of setbacks and got over them where the other hadn't ever faced one so had no record of beating them

Tommy

I think Jake is viewing this from the wrong perspective - skill improvement This is ALL about records. His records and their qualitative level will take a massive boost from this meeting with FS I reckon. He won’t necessarily gain more records but I think it’s like having a book printed on recycled toilet paper and one inscribed on gold plates or something. Upgrade Just a thought I had, probably wrong but it’s an idea

Matthew Lemon

I'd like to think Jake is The Hunter. Being a hunter means to pursue or search for something, it doesn't always have to be limited to just killing. He will hunt for knowledge and power so he can stand above all others. I remember Artemis saying to yggdrasil that his aura projects the feeling of superiority "that has to naturally stand above any other, not out of any desire or choice but simply because it's expressing the rightful way of the world"

AwesomeMug box

I think it’s because TFS didn’t want to keep living so he didn’t go to B grade. I think that’s what Villy said or speculated and that TFS had a transcended skill just to shorten his own life.

Dominick Gelardi

Holy crap . . . Holy crap . . . HOLY CRAP!!

Tony Breckenridge

wheher it’s a literal interpretation or not is irrelevant. The point is only Villy knows and YoY got hit arse handed to him by his molt. If somebody has the quote, I believe Villy indicated TFS could take him present day at whatever “level” he is at.

Tony Breckenridge

We did just see a recollection of near peak C grade TFS destroying a void dweller. I don’t think that was a metaphor.

TNT

I think it’s because the bloodline Villy has evolved or at least changed so he doesn’t have a copy in the truest sense. Back to the notes example. If you copy the notes of the friend, and then add your own notes, and then look at the full page of notes, is the entire page a copy of your friends? That was my interpretation.

TNT

I think it’s at least implied that some of the true royals of the endless empire are from the first era. But couldn’t reach godhood in the first era because of Rigora and the automata.

TNT

I say some because, while all 100 royal lineages are from the creation of the system, the way the lineages work probably means that some of the current true royal queens are probably descendants that are from latter on.

Mat

I think Jake is representing the readers in this case. More comments are just about Jake getting a transcendent skills from all this or some theories about what is happening and not paying attention to the narrative being told. It is almost like Jake question are meant to correct misconceptions the audience has about FS and what is happening right now. So yes, he is annoying

Phoenixdrop

So yeah good to know the strongest person to ever live never became a god but I’m fully expecting Jake’s bloodline to start freaking out because oh boy how is it about to try making Jake more equal with that because it does not like when things are stronger than Jake at the same level

Abhishek

Zog be nice before Christmas and new year please and don’t leave us with no cliffs. Also Thank you for an incredible addition to the first sage lore.

Abdulaziz ALRumaih

Yah fair enough But I’m imagining that the people who originated earlier are stronger because they lived in a system with more exploits

Ben

Ohh I thought he just never made it to B, not that he purposely didn’t evolve. Thanks!

Mat

What happened to the loot?

Ymere

I completely agree. Jake's bloodline does not like the Concept of beings eternally stronger than him. The only reason it tolerates beings like the primordials around Jake is because Jake is always sure he will eventually match them. It is just a matter of time.

TyranT-Rex

I think it was the 8th era, but in any case he got The Furst Sages bloodline as a reward in his last system event. I would assume that was right before God hood but not sure if it was explicitly stated.

TyranT-Rex

Here is a return of one of my crazy theories. I think the first sage and Jake have the same race as more than just human. We know Valdemar is or is something very close, because Jake's bloodline didn't feel innately superior him. It actually noticed something familer in him. It seems similar here, Jake's bloodline instincts is telling him not to mess with the Sage and it doesn't do that to any other human. This is likely tied to why the Sage didn't evolve to B grade since that's when his race would "evolve".

Tommy

Dude…

Abriel Blauer (edited)

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2024-12-18 17:37:33 I kinda a agree that Jakes seems to concentrate too much on what he should be getting and not enough on what he is actually getting. But like everyone said before, Jakes is a simple guys who likes loot and tangible reward. So, he is missing the real rewards from this encounter, which the First Sage already pointed out: New Records that do not exist. Jakes is actually creating records of a place and time that doesn't exist anymore and that even the system, according to the FS, has forgotten. And we all know that grows is based on trhe quality of ones record
2024-12-18 17:32:42 I kinda a agree that Jakes seems to concentrate too much on what he should be getting and not enough on what he is actually getting. But like everyone said before, Jakes is a simple guys who likes loot and tangible reward. So, he is missing the real rewards from this encounter, which the First Sage already pointed out: New Records that do not exist. Jakes is actually creating records of a place and time that doesn't exist anymore and that even the system, according to the FS, has forgotten. And we all know that grows is based on the quality of ones record

I kinda a agree that Jakes seems to concentrate too much on what he should be getting and not enough on what he is actually getting. But like everyone said before, Jakes is a simple guys who likes loot and tangible reward. So, he is missing the real rewards from this encounter, which the First Sage already pointed out: New Records that do not exist. Jakes is actually creating records of a place and time that doesn't exist anymore and that even the system, according to the FS, has forgotten. And we all know that grows is based on the quality of ones record

AfroMocha

send a lot of comments here about this so I’m just gonna weigh in on my perspective and I feel like a lot of people have gotten along the same lines. If not stated exactly what I’m gonna say maybe just in another way. The FS was the first person to hack the internet in lamemens terms he explored and found exploits to the framework. really think about it if you could go back in time with like even rudimentary knowledge of base code and go back to any Internet was first invented people are using it for security systems and you’re just walking through saying a word snapping your finger let go off doors open vaults unlock themselves. This is effectively in my perspective, the power that the first stage has. Like a person with that discovery, that intimate knowledge of like the Internet back, then could do a lot of damage or a lot of good and it would seem astronomically powerful Next, I would like to point out the fact that his physical body died and he continued using transcendent skills his body died for all attends of purposes his soul died, and yet he was still able to reconstitute himself. Doctor fucking Manhattan over here. That being said unless he despursed his essances when the viper killed him he should in theory be able to bring himself back

AfroMocha

The First Sage is Doctor Manhattan. Prove me wrong

Azayrian105

He quite literally might have a transcendent skill to make transcendent skills.

brjenness

I'm just going in circles trying to figure out how smiley's power is going to show up in the past and future. feels like zoggie might have something planned.

michael

Actually that's a good point. FS had the same bloodline, he could set all of his transcendent skills to cost memories and get a bunch of high power hacks for basically free.

Ender419

You sir are a man of great insight as I thought of the same thing!! Imagine the loot he could have picked up at C grade for kill a god-level void dweller.

Ender419

I suspect this vision will give Jake the opportunity for integration into his blood line skill to allow him to perform the same actions besides slowing down time. Imagine if he had this during the final encounter with EH/Celestial Child.

Zack Leach

I dont think that FS is actually superior as an opponent. I dont think that Jake's bloodline considers him a threat or even an opponent. That could be another transcendent skill or just something innate. Plus, the FS is already dead so there's nobody for his bloodline to focus on.

Rewdan

Cheer’s Zogarth

Reno

A "no u" transcendence on its own is pretty overpowered. To have an arsenal of rule breaking abilities with a small enough cost that he didn't even flinch...

Reno

Villy: "mhm, yeah... yeah. Jake. Did I not tell you how impressive the first sage was?" Well, now we know what's required to thoroughly impress a prideful primordial.

Arieh Sochaczevski

Thanks for the chapter! While Jake might not be able to learn anything that will help him directly in a fight, I think he probably learned a lot from seeing that. It might even be enough to inspire an understanding of new concepts. I’m also starting to think that there might need to be a message passed from the First Sage to our favorite Dao Healer…

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

MacMahon Wenzl

Maybe it's not skill improvement but race improvement. What if his unique human variant race is extremely hard to evolve and the reason no one else has appeared before with his unique race is because of the stringent requirements to evolve such a race. By encountering the First Sage Jake is getting a butt load of records that will help him overcome said issue. Btw, I don't think Jake and Valdimar have the same unique human variant race.

Tommy

It would make sense - Jake juice is origin energy which brings things to the origin / enhances based on origin or whatever FS is a human from the 1st universe so he’s pretty close to being an origin - original human

kingofshibainu

Imagining Villy's schadenfreude when he realizes the first sage is out jakeing Jake is going to be fun.

Vincent Schneider

Very interesting point. And while the sage is, well a sage, he knew he shouldn't do it. Whereas Jake is just gonna fuck around and find out. Probably bringing back part of the sage through his bringer of primeval origin fuckery.

Lion3125

I would agree, if it's specific to Villy, but he said: this "No two Bloodlines can ever be perfectly alike as they merge with the Truesoul of whoever possesses it. Just as the Bloodline molds the person, the person molds the Bloodline. When it comes to the powers of the Bloodlines, yes, they are indeed identical, but that does not mean it’s the same Bloodline, nor are the ways we found to use said Bloodline" So he meant it in general. Which is why I find it weird. Basically the difference between "pushing back against THIS usage of the word copy" and "pushing back against THE usage of the word copy (in general)"

Daniel is ŁØNE

I mean yeah, but it would be very much in character to focus on tangible rewards, this is a skill that upgraded a legacy skill on every single use to be much greater than prior, and he used 5 of them, no matter how you interpret it gaining "just" records would feel very lackluster both from Jakes perspective and from a reader perspective and most of us actually know the snowball value of records. I know that records are actually worth more than they are given record for but you have to understand that to jake, he wasted 5 upgrades to a lot of his best skills, as well as an opportunity to glimpse future paths and concepts for said skills to take, if he doesn't get a tangible reward or at least can't perceive a tangible reward in the moment it wouldn't be far off to go for second best and try to see if he can gain anything from the First Sage's way of showcasing power.

Michael Ferguson

Uno reverse, wild draw four. I'm not dead, your dead. That was insane. Jake has been doing something like that with his moment of the Primal Hunter. But it's not a unique skill. I think Jake could totally pull himself back together if his body dies, but he can't stop his soul from passing on. That is bananas.

Justin Moen

Can’t believe I made such a typo. I don’t think I can continue after such a mistake…

Michael Ferguson

Useless. Jake didn't die. He won every round with the power he had. The Sage just said "reverse" and made a void being dead and after that made himself alive. That can't be replicated.

Justin Moen

No I don’t think it’s that simple. He was at the very cusp of B grade and most likely knew he would die to villys hand. Why stop there specifically? Why not evolve to B grade and die at whatever random level he finally decides the time is right? He would’ve just been harder to be fully killed but not impossible. Would’ve been more experience for villy. Yes he knew his own future but that future was also a choice he made

Michael Ferguson

It could shorten his life. If he wanted to be a god loosing some of infinite is also meaning less. It could also just have a long cool down. Like once per 100 levels.

Michael Ferguson

I've played games with reflecte damage. But yeah, he reversed death not the damage. They both died. But the sage slowed, paused, and returned his life.

Luke Scheffe

He got the bloodline after reaching godhood, and I think before the second era.

Luke Scheffe

The first sage just punched up FOUR TIERS!

James Faulkner

Goddamn lol, I wonder if Jake’s records will be affected by seeing those abilities?

Sean

I wonder if the First Sage’s transcendence lets him borrow power from his future?

LIMBO

I always wonder what records are, and I think we have our answer: their story. Everything has a record, a story, but also an origin, a spark that made the impossible possible(this is where bloodline comes from I believe, they all touch the origin of something to some extent; Jake's is based upon the origin). A story could represented in numbers, words, concepts, etc. It is every single one of those things and all of them. The first Sage, was a Liberian, a keeper of records; and an observer. Do you know what else is an observer? The system. I think that's why he essentially killed himself, he sought to be omniscient and exploited the system and his bloodline, and he succeeded, but in doing so he became too imbalance( for her was a keeper and active participant in the story), a Keeper of records can not create records himself, lest the story breaks for he carries the weight of all( hence why the system rarely interfere). Making it all meaningless. This is further cemented by the fact that the system appears to Villy looking like the sage.

Phoenixdrop

Yeah more specifically it is okay with it because it feels that the only reason they are stronger is because they were around longer but once Jake reaches the same level as them he’ll end up being stronger but the first sage was peak C-grade pretty close to Jake’s current level of power but he is unquestionably stronger than him so this will be fun

John Durrett

We may be giving too much credit to the first sage and not enough to the system. It’s not the first sage making this in person communication possible, it’s the system and possibly Jake’s bloodline influencing the system to become stronger

Clint

Maybe “Bloodline of the Immortal Mind” is more literal than we thought.

Clint

I think that battle might make Jake’s bloodline reevaluate what it means by strength.

Abriel Blauer

@John Durrett I don't think this is the System doing. This is really the doing of the First Sage, and he is even suprised the System allows it, since the First Sage is Forbidden Knowledge “I said it already, but I do find it peculiar the system even allows this... though it is with guardrails and our conversation more like than not made Forbidden Knowledge, making it hard to divulge and spread any of the Records I share with you"

Gwiddion

I doubt it's race related the sage saying that the system was way more lax tells me that his transcendent skills have allowed him to reach a insane height with his concepts so that he has authority over them. That's where his power comes from he has perfect knowledge about all the different ways something can be slowed as an example. That's also probably the only way he could show Jake this version of him without that version realising that Jake is there. My guess is that this is what he instills in Jake the importance of the depth of the concepts he is using stats and skills will only get you so far. I think that's what sylphie has in the case of wind. Authority. She knows it in all it's aspects, so that she can basically controll it as long as noone is there with more knowledge about it than her or probably way way way more power. That's how she could kill the floor boss in nevermore even though it was far superior in all ways but the knowledge about the type of magic that was used at that point.

Steven Crowe

I'm wondering if part of the First Sage's "version" of the blood line is the ability to "remember" himself at all his various power levels ie he can appear as a lvl 16 or a 154 or a 1000 at the speed of thought. Also that he kind of simultaneously is everything he ever was or will be at every instance he existed in. Kind of a brain scratcher

Alex

I feel as though the description of the Bloodline of the immortal mind is intentionally misleading as part of a bait-and-switch by Zog. The Bloodline is described as a memory Bloodline that forces its user to perfectly and constantly remember everything they’ve ever experienced. I think this is something of a side-effect to the Bloodline’s main function. I think the actual function of the Bloodline is to make it so that the user’s mind exists across all of their time — essentially, I think the Bloodline allows its user to think with the memories of their mind: in effect, the Bloodline holder’s mind would continuously expand as they lived, because the minds of their past selves would add to the mind of their current self. The user experiences all of their memories simultaneously because their mind exists simultaneously across all the time that they’ve ever lived as an ever-growing thing. The First Sage isn’t ‘alive’ per se, but since the historical Records of his mind are an active, functional thing, he can’t truly die either: you can’t kill the parts of his mind that exist in the past because those Records are absolute. I think the 'world' of the First Sage's memory is shaped by and grows with his Records - this is why he was totally cool with letting the Viper kill him; as the Viper's Records grow, so too do the Records of the First Sage - particularly since the Viper has the First Sage's Bloodline. The First Sage has been 'living' this entire time as an immortal memory-ghost in the Records, with his world constantly expanding as the Viper's Records grow. If that speculation is correct then I think the Bloodline of the Immortal Mind would be absolutely fucking incredible to have. Not without its drawbacks for sure - everyone has things they'd rather forget, even if they've lived a good life - but considering the (speculated) benefits of the Bloodline, I think the drawbacks would be well worth it. Definitely a pinnacle-tier Bloodline.

BJ

I love this! In all litrpgs, System is the supreme. You may have errors, or manipulate the system but System is the supreme. but here we have First Sage who can ‘break’ the System. There is a mortal who is above the System!

BJ

I think what FS meant by number of Transcendent skills is that he has no limit. He can create them whenever he wants with no limit put by the system.

Shaibene

Is this the start of Jake getting a transcendent skill involving words of power, we have seen jakes improvement with words of power in the El Hakan fight

Thenais

So jake is the 12th or the 13th primordial ?

Semzi

Jake finding a human that is potentially stronger than him. Wonder if his bloodline will tolerate that.

Ty Cooper

Does anyone else feel Zog is getting a wonderful chuckle from all of our speculations as he releases the chapters or do you think he will save them for his Christmas break? Because you know he is chuckling or will be chuckling reading all these posts.

Darthnarciss (edited)

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2024-12-19 12:23:35 While there is always the chance that the First Sage is living, with only what we've seen so far, I'll take him at his word. That being said, I interpreted what he said as something along the lines of, " you really like your friends house, so you ask for the blueprints to make your own. Every board, Brick, and nail the same. Your's is in the forest though, while his is in the plains. They started out the same, but they are in different environments, so you'll probably have to reinforce different aspects of the building over time, maybe change the gutters, reinforce the roof that sort of thing. Then of course, you are separate people, so you'll end up having different decor, maybe after a while you decide to knock out a wall here for a brunch counter, and there build a nice little nook, oh and we can't forget about storage, he doesn't have very much stuff but you tend to be a bit of a hoarder so of course you decide to add in storage under the stairs. He likes more earth tones, but you are free spirited, so you went for more bright colors and repainted the whole house inside and out. The houses were built using the same blueprint, exact same sqaure footage, and dimensions, but noone would say yours is a copy of his."
2024-12-19 02:47:55 While there is always the chance that the First Sage is lieing, with only what we've seen so far, I'll take him at his word. That being said, I interpreted what he said as something along the lines of, " you really like your friends house, so you ask for the blueprints to make your own. Every board, Brick, and nail the same. Your's is in the forest though, while his is in the plains. They started out the same, but they are in different environments, so you'll probably have to reinforce different aspects of the building over time, maybe change the gutters, reinforce the roof that sort of thing. Then of course, you are separate people, so you'll end up having different decor, maybe after a while you decide to knock out a wall here for a brunch counter, and there build a nice little nook, oh and we can't forget about storage, he doesn't have very much stuff but you tend to be a bit of a hoarder so of course you decide to add in storage under the stairs. He likes more earth tones, but you are free spirited, so you went for more bright colors and repainted the whole house inside and out. The houses were built using the same blueprint, exact same sqaure footage, and dimensions, but noone would say yours is a copy of his."

While there is always the chance that the First Sage is lieing, with only what we've seen so far, I'll take him at his word. That being said, I interpreted what he said as something along the lines of, " you really like your friends house, so you ask for the blueprints to make your own. Every board, Brick, and nail the same. Your's is in the forest though, while his is in the plains. They started out the same, but they are in different environments, so you'll probably have to reinforce different aspects of the building over time, maybe change the gutters, reinforce the roof that sort of thing. Then of course, you are separate people, so you'll end up having different decor, maybe after a while you decide to knock out a wall here for a brunch counter, and there build a nice little nook, oh and we can't forget about storage, he doesn't have very much stuff but you tend to be a bit of a hoarder so of course you decide to add in storage under the stairs. He likes more earth tones, but you are free spirited, so you went for more bright colors and repainted the whole house inside and out. The houses were built using the same blueprint, exact same sqaure footage, and dimensions, but noone would say yours is a copy of his."

Lynderyn

14th. The 1st was the First Sage as he clearly qualifies given he defeated a void dweller in C grade. Villy Holy Mother Blight Father Ygg Dao Vald Builder person (Regina?) Eversmile Stormild Aeon Wyrmgod Star Seizing Titan

Lynderyn

If he is to be believed, levels after C tier can’t be seen as his path ends just prior to B tier.

Sean

True but he could have the ability to draw strength from the possibilities of his path before it ended

Lynderyn

Potentially more if the implications that godhood has tiers and void dwellers are above many of the early tiers of godhood.

Lynderyn

Maybe Eron’s task to godhood is finding and rekindling the ‘spark’ of the first sage bringing him back to life.

Asher Mack

He I think will definitely find it difficult but I think it will be an opportunity for growth. I don’t think we’ll get bloodline shenanigans. It would be different if the first sage was still alive but other than him Jake has the highest potential of any being at his grade in history and I think he knows that.

Lynderyn

I think Jake may be exempt from the Forbidden Knowledge block thingy due to his bloodline.

Thenais

« Ok system, delay all the payments of any transcendant skill i use until next grade - i will totally pay it all back with interest, just trust me bro. »

Ed

It sounds like the bloodline of the Immortal Mind is a lot more literal than expected. It seems as though his mind persists even beyond death.

MarineDebris

Jake needs to be asking questions that relate to his own Origin. I thought that was the whole point of this experience. Jake is some kind of human variant, at least as far as he knows. Knowledge is what he gains through every year of this skill, and he uses that knowledge to experience breakthroughs. The skill has never given him any kind of tangible reward, except for the knowledge to further his understanding of his abilities. What can he gain by the questions he's been asking the FS?? Nothing. It's pointless information, not knowledge. There's a big difference.

Lizy Flore

I typed the exact same theory some 200 chapters or so ago. Basically I said I thought they were of the same race because of how OBNOXIOUSLY monstrous they both were. Thinking back now I’m not so sure. Bc their overpowered MC level of energy comes from VERY different places. Jake, well, it’s basically his bloodline and self-belief that he’s the best, and will come eventually to be the strongest. He is absolute sure of that, and it has impacted his whole personality and Path. The FS, on the other hand, doesn’t seem to seek strength. He told us in the first chap of this week, that primarily, he was simply curious about everything. FS seeks knowledge, and rather than being powerful, his goal was to know everything, and along the way, he became the way he is now. And I’m pretty sure he hasn’t stopped learning. As for their races… we’ll, it’s entirely possible that B-grade will be it, and that it is the reason the FS never evolved (also part of my theory). But there is, also, the possibility that that race Jake belongs to will be reached when his bloodline reaches 100% completion.

Tetsu-nii

Suggestion: /"[…] My area was lucky, but others not so much as they experienced quite the geographical changes,”/=>/[…] as they experienced *significant* geographical changes,"/ … Since I imagine The First Sage to be erudite and therefore speak with great erudition, or he wouldn't be referred to as a sage, much less the foremost sage as his title states.

Jeff McCulley

Any bets he’s about to have a Transcendent skill that gives Jake a Transcendent skill?

Jeff McCulley

Well, he DID say that different people use the skill differently. Clearly, he knows how to use the skill WAY more fully than Villy does.

Jeff McCulley

To be fair, I have the Bloodline of the Immoral Mind—and that one’s pretty literal.

Jeff McCulley

Psst. You just did a double negative, and asked for cliffs. Sure that’s how you want to roll?

Martino Zanchi

Only now thought about it but isn't the saying a trip down memory lane instead of a journey?