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Doctor Who 3x12 FULL LENGTH Reaction | The Sound of Drums - AMAZON/DVD (Patreon)

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Doctor Who 3x12 FULL LENGTH Reaction | The Sound of Drums - AMAZON/DVD

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Azmat Mahmood

Great second part. This episode does a fantastic job of building up the Master and showing just how in control he really is. He's one step ahead of the Doctor at every turn and that’s not something he or the viewers are used to. What I love about the Master becoming prime minister after Harriet Jones' downfall is that technically it's all the Doctor's fault. He's responsible for her fall, so he allowed the Master an entry to take control. Once again the Doctor's arrogance and hubris comes back to bite him on the ass. This episode also does a great job of showing the connection between the Doctor and the Master. They grew up together on Gallifrey and were the best of friends, but as they grew older, they also grew further and further apart until they became bitter enemies. Always looking to prove the other wrong, playing a game of one-upmanship. You really feel the hundreds of years of history between the two, even if you've never watched classic Who before. That phone call scene between Tennant and Simm is goosebump inducing.

Azmat Mahmood

I also think it’s brilliant the way this episode brings together seemingly separate story elements, some of which go as far back as last series and ties them together to create one cohesive story arc for this series. The name Harold Saxon was first seen in a headline on the back of a newspaper the Abzorballof was reading in Love and Monsters. In The Runaway Bride, a certain Mr Saxon gave the order to the tank that shot down the Racnoss Queen and in Smith and Jones he was mentioned on a radio station Martha was listening to. The Lazarus Experiment and 42 also introduce Saxon as a threat and a proper character, albeit still in the background and not yet appearing onscreen, who appears to be taking a keen interest in the Doctor and Martha’s family for some reason. The Lazarus Experiment also introduces the technology that would go on to be used to age the Doctor in this episode. Utopia also brings back the tenth Doctor's severed hand from The Christmas Invasion, which is how the Master is able to use the Lazarus technology to age the Doctor in this episode. Gridlock starts the YANA storyline and the idea that there could be another Time Lord in the universe and Human Nature/The Family of Blood introduces the fobwatch and the idea that Time Lords can rewrite their biology. Then, in Utopia, the YANA storyline is paid off spectacularly with the use of the previously introduced fobwatch with an amazing plot twist that not only is the Doctor not the last of his kind, that other surviving Time Lord is in fact his arch nemesis the Master, who had taken on the persona of a kindly old professor. And all these seemingly separate plot points dovetail with one another in this episode, when it's revealed that Saxon and the Master were one and the same all along and he time travelled at the end of Utopia a year and a half before the TARDIS last dematerialised from Earth, which is way before Martha started travelling with the Doctor and the fact that we first saw the name Harold Saxon as far back as Love and Monsters, it means the Master has been lurking in the background, biding his time and waiting for the perfect opportunity to execute his plans for a long time and the Doctor was blissfully unaware, which is probably why the Master got the better of the Doctor at the end of this episode. It really is masterful writing. Pun very much intended. This story has been so expansive so far, taking place over billions of years if you think about it. So many twists and turns too! The third part takes yet another sharp turn for this story, it goes off in a totally unexpected direction. I can't wait to see what you think of it all.

Suprem Devi

I do love how you picked that it was Saxon at the end of the last episode and it was confirmed for you fairly early in this one. I do remember that when I first watched it I had not picked that up. Also a fun little thing, about Old Who, I do believe the Master was always complaining about the drum beats, this is information according to my father who grew up on original Who and he picked the master in the previous episode after the 3rd or 4th time that they had the beating drums with the professor.

Ben

As you will have seen Ep13 by now, you'll know that the toclafane are nothing to do with the Daleks, but it's funny you should mention the Daleks in relation to the Toclafane, because when Russell T Davies was planning the revival of the show back in 2004, there was some issues in getting the rights to use the Daleks from their original creator in Classic Who, so the Toclafane where what RTD came up with to use in the event that they couldn't sort the rights out.

Nathan Jasper, the Artist Formerly Known as Primary

I love John Simm's Master. He truly is BONKERS but I do find it interesting that he said he ran away during the Time War. Funny how Mr. Wants-Everyone-Dead couldn't handle an actual war that he wasn't in control of! I don't want to say much more until you see the conclusion, so I'll wait and leave a much better comment/analysis on Friday :)

Moricant

UK general elections aren’t on such a rigid schedule as US one. The maximum length of time a government can be in office is five years, but the Prime Minister can ask the monarch to dissolve Parliament and trigger a general election at any time and it can therefore be timed to benefit the incumbent government. The country is split into 650 constituencies, each of which elects a single representative to the House of Commons by simple plurality. Once the election is over the leader of the largest party in the Commons attempts to form a government which requires them to command a majority of votes in the Commons. If their party does not have an outright majority they can attempt to form a coalition with one or more other parties, or negotiate a less formal agreement with other MPs to achieve the required number of votes. A general election is not the only way a Prime Minister can be replaced. Each party has its own rules for electing and replacing party leaders, and if the Prime Minister’s party replaces them as leader the new leader becomes Prime Minister. Also, if the government loses the ability to command a majority in the Commons the Prime Minister has to step down.

Buck Rogers

Trying to make sense of the Master and his plans is a time honored exercise

Merkavar

Nice, earlier than expected

Jacob King
>>158656117

The Master was Defence Minister in Harriet Jones’s cabinet so it’s not like his plan wouldn’t have come into effect eventually.

Azmat Mahmood
>>158656117

Nope, direct quote from the episode: VIVIEN: "Eighteen months ago, he became real. This is his first, honest to God appearance, just after the downfall of Harriet Jones".

Rach

So - this episode is fun but it does show that RTD doesn't really understand political systems - 'Vote Saxon' doesn't really work as a slogan because Prime Ministers are not directly elected but are just whoever happens to be the leader of the party in government, and it's fairly clear he just thought 'President-Elect' was just a fancier word for 'President'.! He seems to come across these issues a lot when he writes politics stuff but I like it, adds to the fun camp vibes! (Of course, we could just assume that politics works differently in the Whoniverse...)

Rach
>>158781850

Also bit of useless trivia, on the back of Martha's television is a 'Magpie Electricals' logo, the TV shop from that dull Series 2 episode about the Coronation. It appears occasionally on electronics in the show from here on out, fun to try and spot!

Paulo

Wow I guess you don’t like the Bills.