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Young Royals S3E5 - "Episode 5" - UNCUT (Patreon)

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2024-04-11 23:11:44
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Was NOT expecting that end but my god, guess we will have to see if they can resolve things in the finale

Link 1: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BHJOv4lWbozpY6wkZaJO1y1DSTI5EQk6/view?usp=drive_link

Link 2: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qpww4p859cuazfvweqen2/YR-S3E5.mp4?rlkey=csosxdxzy6vvuo4t3ttae2dua&dl=0


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Alexander

Yeah, I think what happened with the Simon and Wille argument, in the music room , was that Wille was projecting his own emotions onto Simons statements. His brain displaced his emotions onto Simon making Wille perceive Simons statements as more negative than they actually were. It’s a way of externalising emotions so they’re easier to deal with. I imagine it was subconsciously happening in the heat of the moment I don’t think there was any deliberate misconstruing going on.

Alexander

Wille is Augusts cousin so technically he would still be part of the family, they just pushed August up the line of succession.

Priyanka Bansal

I am sorry I agree with wille as much as the next person but yelling at his parents and calling him mum useless went a little too far for me. You want to be treated like an adult, like you can make your own decisions, you better find a way to communicate your anger without yelling at your fucking parents. Maybe it's because of my Asian culture and the fact that raising my voice at my parents is damn near incomprehensible and like not even a possibility but I cannot condone that. People who say that Kristina(the queen), was going through stuff but needs to consider wille, yes that is true, however, people always forget that if wille has been angry and oppressed by the monarchy for 17 years, his mum has had to deal with that for nearly thrice as long. And for her to now seek help and try to heal years of NEVER putting her needs first, is a HUGE step. I am not trying to compare traumas, I am simply stating that Kristina is a very sympathetic figure to me. The fact that she could not eat and get out of bed for days on end and somehow managed to pull herself together to give wille this day is not a small feat. I'm not saying wille should be grateful for that because it kinda is the bare minimum but there needs to be a wider recognition of the fact that its not like his parents left him alone in his grief so that they could grieve and heal. They completely sidelined themselves as well for Sweden's pain. They also never got to heal. Especially his mom. I cannot even imagine what it must be like to see someone you brought into this world and loved and nurtured to be dead. Plus the responsibility of now having to train wille to be king because he was the "spare", he never had to learn to be king properly, and the video scandal was all just too much for her. And as someone who has also been suppressing trauma and never spoke out, I see myself in Kristina and maybe that is why I am willing to see her side. The issue is we only see Willi's perspective where it looks like his parents are selfish assholes, but when we consider them as humans on their own it is more complex. Like wille kinda almost has it better I would argue by being young and allowing his feelings to bubble up and explode, it isn't going to haunt him in the future. The Queen however, has years and years of repressed trauma even before Eric died and that now she is trying to overcome that wille has the fucking audacity to show up and say that he said and I quote, "she DECIDES that this is time to lose it and abandon him" or something like that. I AM SORRY BUT SHE DIDNT CHOOSE HER SON DYING AND HER MENTAL BREAKDOWN THAT ENSUED.

Alexander

I actually completely agree with what Simon did in that moment. I understand that Wille had a breakdown with his parents but if we look at this from Simon’s perspective he’s looking at what potentially the rest of his relationship with Wille will look like and I can’t fault him for not wanting to be in the middle of a toxic family relationship. I think that saying that to Wille, for Simon, was hard enough and i could understand that in his head he might have been thinking if I don’t say this now I may not have the courage to say it to Wille again.

Alexander

I may be wrong but I feel like we haven’t really had conflicts be resolved at all. I don’t feel like Simon and Wille have had an argument that has ended in a genuine conversation reflecting on the problems. It feels like they kind of just get over it.

j-l
>>134959327

i mean i get that its been hard for her and i sympathize with that.. but she has been neglecting him his whole life as far as we know, he even said ''its always been like this''. the fact that wille, her CHILD has comforted and done more for her than she ever has for him makes me so angry. like he has gotten no support from her or the royal court whatsoever and constantly gets more and more pressure on his shoulders without any comfort. even going back to the final ep of s1 after the video leaked he got no comfort, she made him feel like it was his fault and protected august over her own son. she NEVER puts him first and constantly compares him to erik.. even on willes own birthday that was all she talked about. wille has showed her more compassion than she ever has for him. like when she was having a panic attack in the first episode of s3 wille immediately ran up to her and tried to help. but whenever hes been in the same situation hes just been told to ''get it together''. and also, wille cant be expected to communicate his feelings well when hes never been taught how communicate, cause they never do in his family.. one of the reasons he and simon clash so much is cause wille is really bad at communication. hes always been taught to surpress his feelings so it was only a matter of time before he exploded. and i honestly think kristina deserved and needed to hear that after how shes been treating him. yes, the ''youre useless at both'' part was harsh but idk im with him on this one. YOURE ALLOWED TO YOUR OPINION BTW OFC this is just my take on it cause i think its fun to discuss

j-l

fun fact - the woman who sat on the chair playing guitar when willes family was singing that birthday song is lisa ambjörn, the head writer of the show :) a cool little cameo

j-l
>>134959327

also to add to this, wille has felt like hes been forced to hold back his feelings for so long. in that scene hes practically BEGGING his parents to see him, acknowledge him, be there for him. i mean hes yelling out of just complete hurt, grief and frustration after god knows how long of that building up.. and they still dont listen, just try to cut him off. willes dad doesnt even have anything to say, wille stares at him silently begging him to do something but he just leaves his son completely shattered

scarr

It is just so interesting to me how people have such different takes on everything that happens in this show! Another pair of reactors released this same episode earlier today and seemed to see everything that played out from Simon's perspective more so than Wille's and were devastated for all that he was subjected to throughout this whole episode -mostly from Wille- such that the breakup came as no surprise at all. I think I was somewhere more in the middle - I was pretty much shattered by this episode because of how much both boys were suffering individually and unable to be there for each other. I also saw the breakup as inevitable because despite understanding the pain Wille was going through, it was very apparent that his behavior towards Simon was tearing him down bit by bit, when he'd already expressed more than once that he felt like whatever he did was wrong. I thought Simon did the right thing for both of them, however I was also crushed by the timing of it for Wille's sake. UGH why must everything be so hard ?? I just want them to be happy and love each other 😭 This show is brilliant though. And the acting this episode?? 🙌

lisa mcarthur

i love your reaction this episode was the hardest to watch and simon got the courage to say how he has been feeling its not easy for younger people to say how they are feelings and they both are feeling so much pain and its does hurt to see younger people go though this and also with wille he got so much presher on his plant that royal family and courts puting all this on him he only 17 year old its so much to deal with i just feel sorry for the both of them of what they are going though.

Ruth May

There’s almost too much to say about this episode, and it’s true of episode 5 in season 1 and 2 as well. Lisa certainly knows how to ramp up the emotional turmoil in penultimate episodes! But of all the things that we see here, the one that stands out for me about Wille is that I think we see him in this episode struggling to face up to Erik not being perfect partly because he has been so comforted by and drawn such emotional support from his remembered relationship with him. He always saw Erik as the person in his family who loved him, who was always there for him. It was Erik who drove him to the school on his first day, who gave him the frog prince snow globe. We see that shattered globe in the background of the shot when Wille is trying to talk to his father on the phone about having heard something about Erik and it’s a powerful symbol of how the idealised brotherly relationship has been destroyed. Perhaps that’s necessary, though, despite the pain it’s causing Wille, because now that Erik is no longer up there on the impossible pedestal of The Perfect Crown Prince that Wille could never live up to, maybe Wille can eventually give himself permission to stop forcing himself to honour Erik’s legacy. He even told Simon in season 2 episode 5 when he went to Simon’s house, that he didn’t want to let his family down but specifically mentioned Erik. Interesting that the snow globe features in that same episode in season 2 when Simon goes to Wille’s room and they make love on the day before the jubilee and Wille’s speech. Then, it signifies that only Simon can reach the real Wille, as he puts his fingers inside the broken glass without cutting himself, to touch the frog Prince inside the remains of the globe. This show is so well written; there are layers upon layers of allusion, subtle parallels and echoes that ripple through all three seasons. I can’t imagine ever tiring of it.

Ruth May

Just listening again to your point about Simon picking his moment, I understand that this seems like the worst possible time for Simon to be saying this to Wille, but in my opinion, he’s just reached breaking point himself and is acting out of self preservation. He’s been shown as literally losing his voice in that we no longer hear his voice above the others in the choir, he tells Wille that singing isn’t as much fun any more, Rosh warns him not to ‘delete himself’ when he’s forced to delete all his social media accounts from his phone and he is so caving in on himself that he repeats what his mother said, ‘Love shouldn’t be this hard’, as if he no longer has words of his own that he trusts to get through to Wille. Did you notice the painting in the shot, the one of the stag about to be torn to pieces by the hounds in the hunt? It seems to me that it applies to both Wille and Simon in this episode, as familial and external pressures have them equally at bay. Bring tissues, snacks and your sister’s beautiful dog for the finale, because you will require all your support systems, it’s A LOT…❤️👑❤️

Ruth May

Thanks for your reaction, Harry. You provide a very good reason for re-watching Young Royals and I love thinking about all your insights. ❤️🙏

Dionne Lakey

I don't think Simon is reacting to Wille's outburst as the reason he doesn't recognise him anymore. It's the way that Wille has spoken to him like he was a servant and should be there for him in his time of need. He demands support from Simon and projects his pain onto him all of this episode. This is not the Wille he recognises who is kind and considerate.

IAmom
>>134959327

I agree 100 percent. They got what they deserved - in fact I think he was too nice.

IAmom

Thank you for your reaction. I couldn’t disagree with you more about Sara and August. Sara is a grown woman and could have walked away whenever if she wanted. She stayed. I think he read her that letter to make her see that she is not alone in being bullied/feeling lonely/no friends etc. He was that way too. He was trying to show her what had led him to his actions - but also said he wished he had done things differently with her. Again like with the adhd - it is an explanation for a behavior and not an excuse. And as for kissing him - she loves him - of course she would kiss him - it would be hard not to. And that doesn’t mean that her relationship with Felice and Simon are any less sincere. Just my two cents ☺️

KingBob

Thank you for the video! Enjoyed it very much. But for me personally, I would have done the same thing as Simon. (NOT because I'm Omar's fan :-D) I understand Wille, but I would have got hurt a lot if my boyfriend had treated me like he did Simon. It's too hurtful and simply too much.