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The Originals S1E8 - "The River in Reverse" - UNCUT (Patreon)

Published:
2023-04-15 00:26:52
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2023-04-15 00:28:09
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2024-12
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SO sorry about the delays on these ones guys! Struggled more than I thought I would keeping on track this week but I am working on it I promise

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Rebekah, Facing a difficult decision, turns to Father Kieran for guidance. Elijah struggles with the consequences of a recent fallout with Klaus. Hayley remains by his side, but is soon drawn away by a mysterious figure who sheds some light on her past. Meanwhile, a frustrated Camille struggles to make sense of a cryptic message she came across. Finally, when an unsuspecting Marcel uncovers some upsetting information involving Klaus, a confrontation ends in a surprising twist.

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golam rabbi

In regards to klaus kept daggring Rebekah, yes it’s a flaw in him, but you have to see it from his perspective. He is the protective big brother. Rebekah has demonstrated choosing bad men time and time again. Example when she fell in love with the hunters that almost ended all vampires If jt wasn’t for klaus. As the show progresses, you can make a argument from klaus views, he is protecting his only living family. Like Elijah mentioned once they fall in love klaus feels that abandonment as he was never cared for as a child. As for marcel and Rebekah, klaus gave marcel a choice of either choosing to stay with her or be vampire. He chose the ladder. From klaus eyes, he could have noticed that marcel did not deserve his sister if him becoming a vampire ment more to him.

Nicci.89

Also to add to previous person's comment, because of Rebekah falling in love with that hunter, Klaus then killed the 5 and suffered the hunters curse for over 50 years. If you remember when Elena had it, she was tormented by visions of people she loves and couldn't handle it for like a day lol so I suspect Klaus' siblings were his main tormentors, along with Mikael of course, fornover 50. That would likely have greatly increased his paranoia regarding them. And remember we haven't really seen a lot of their history as siblings yet at this point. Klaus is one of my favourite characters but I also hate how he acts often, I just understand it most of the time. I find a lot of other characters a little more hypocritical as they make out he is the only one doing harm and they are saints which is definitely not true, as people or as siblings. One thing to note too is that the first time we know of Klaus daggering Elijah is after he tried to kill him in TVD and the first time he did it to Rebekah was after she was kissing Marcel (I have always been a bit weirded out by that relationship as Klaus raised him as a son so Rebekah would have effectively been his aunt most of his life so not a huge fan of grooming even if it was more acceptable back then lol). It was obviously harsh as Klaus saw it as betrayal as Marcel was the first person he cared about in centuries and would be paranoid Rebekah would steal Marcel's affections/loyalty, his biggest character flaw but really Rebekah falls in love very easily with anyone nice to her. She should really expect more before giving her heart so they can't just use her. Did Marcel really love her enough if he allowed her to be daggered for over 50 years? Perhaps Klaus is trying to protect her as others think or is just controlling and scared to lose her to someone else. Either way very unhealthy and ensures she will never learn or grow for herself. And in regards to Celeste, I actually don't think Klaus did that intentionally as Elijah said he loosened the reins. Meaning Elijah was no longer spending much time with his siblings and Klaus as usual got up to mischief, I really don't think Klaus even thought about her or that Elijah even cared that much about her (we know he is not the most thoughtful or emotionally understanding sibling). Elijah gave a big speach in episode one that he would stand by his side and be his brother so Klaus likely feels more betrayal when he suspects him of wanting to use his child as Elijah didn't believe in him. Remember they have lived for over 1000 years, they have had previous moments of living happily together as a family, even with the threat of Mikael, so to make out as if Klaus is always evil and mistreating them is not very accurate. For all his flaws he has never tried to kill them and probably believes he is protecting them half the time (some time he is just punishing them) so even though it is flawed logic he isn't just always trying to terrorise his family.

Nicci.89
>>106397541

Wow that was way longer than I meant it to be. Lol. Really love your reactions and looking forward to the next few in particular. X

Nick22

I am always incredible torn with Klaus and his actions. It is true that his past actions linger with Elijah and Rebekah, and he can't expect them to just look past it all and forget it – too much has happened for that. But on the other hand, I do agree with what he said in his speech. It doesn't matter how much a person wants to change, it takes time and effort to actively change as a person, it's not a process that could happen in a short amount of time – especially if you have been the person that you are now for hundreds of years. And looking back at how Klaus has acted when we were first introduced to him, he has changed for the better, even when his demons still haunt him. I believe his time with Camille is also an indicator that he tries to be a better person with her help, because he probably doesn't know how to better himself on his own. Like he said to the pastor, he has killed people for saying less than what she said. In the past, he most likely did that because he wanted to avoid facing his demons. But now he wants and has to for his family, including his child. He acts like he would rather not hear what Camille has to say, but if that was actually true, he would not surround himself with her. And coming back to his speech, I think he has every right to be disappointed and angry because even if he didn't always act how we would like him to, he was a better person than, for example in TVD. And it must be incredibly frustrating, if you want to be better and try to become a better person for your family and then your family betrays you. NOT saying Elijah and Rebekah have no right to be sceptical of him. But for Klaus, this would probably give him a sense of “Why should I try to be better, if it doesn't actually change anything?” Although I do believe after everything, he has done, he has to live with that and just continue to try to be better. The last thing I want to touch on is that you mentioned Klaus uses him being a bastard to manipulate his siblings, and I have to disagree. As we have seen in TVD, he has been reduced to being a bastard, mainly by their father, and then he hunted and hated him for centuries. And even in this episode, when Elijah was angry at him for unintentionally getting Celeste killed, Elijah himself called what he believed to be Klaus a bastard. So if your own family uses that term as an insult, I don't blame Klaus for feeling like one. And I do believe he actually does feel like one in certain situations. I do want Klaus to be a better person, and I believe that is what he wants as well. It's just incredibly frustrating for the audience to see him standing in his own way.

Sky

Elijah and Rebekah will never truly understand Klaus in my opinion. They can never truly understand his pain, self-hatred and insecurity that has been bred over 1000 years. I can honestly understand why Klaus acts the way he does sometimes. All of what/who Klaus is because of how he was treated by his father. Klaus was emotionally and physically abused my Mikael for basically the entirety of his childhood while his mother and siblings stood by and did nothing. (Now I am not saying that there was much for them to do, but considering Esther was a witch, I think she could have done something to put Mikael down) Imagine being beaten and abused for YEARS as the people who claim to love you stand by and do nothing as this happens. Could you imagine what that would do to you mentally? From Klaus' prospective how could he trust Elijah and Rebekah when they were there when he was crying out for help and they did nothing? Watched as he was mistreated and alienated out of his own family for something that was not at all his fault? When it was Esther's fault for her own actions, but all of Mikael's anger is taken out on Klaus? I know you mentioned that Rebekah and Elijah have tried to love Klaus over the centuries and make it up to him, but that pain runs too deep. How could we honestly sit here and tell Klaus that he should trust his siblings when for the one moment when he truly NEEDED them to love him and stand up for him, they didn't? I can honestly say that if I was in Klaus' situation that I wouldn't trust them at all either. I wouldn't be able to look at them as my siblings anymore. In all honesty, I think Elijah and Rebekah trying to love and be there for Klaus now is a matter of too little too late. The foundation of their relationship has been built on the abuse they let slide for years. It is a miracle that Klaus even cares for them AT ALL after what happened. I've also noticed that when Klaus brings up how he was the main and basically only target of Mikael's abuse as a child, they would interject and say something about Mikael scaring them all as children. This just seems so dismissive and insensitive in my opinion. Sure Mikael was not nice to anyone in his family, but dismissing the level of abuse that Klaus endured and comparing it to Rebekah and Elijah's discomfort every once in awhile is a MASSIVE slap in the face to Klaus. To me it feels as though they never really admit how bad it was for Klaus or how it effects him. I assume it's because if they admit how bad the abuse was then they'd have to confront the fact that they sat back and allowed it to continue for so long without helping Klaus and they want to save themselves the guilt. But maybe them confronting the guilt and actually deeply apologizing to Klaus would help move Klaus in the right direction. Now I am by no means excusing Klaus for killing innocent people, or daggering his siblings, but he does have grounds for his mistrust of them. Klaus' wickedness developed once he realized that he could not trust the people who supposedly love him to come to his aid. His wickedness was him adapting to protect himself from anymore abuse he might suffer from Mikael or from the world in general. There was only so long that he could remain the sweet boy that he was before turning into the "monster" that we see now before Mikael broke him.

Hali
>>107789059

This is such an old comment but PREACH! Not once in flashbacks or in conversation have we heard that Mikael was physically abusive to his other children. Meanwhile we’ve seen and heard that from childhood to what appears to be his 20s Klaus often endured beatings that threatened his life. He took the worst of it and I can’t imagine how much that would fuck with a person’s head, seeing that your other siblings are treated differently while your mother turns a blind eye to it all. Even Rebekah and Elijah feeling hinted was only because they ran with Klaus. If they hadn’t had been with him, Mikael never would’ve come after them.

Marlene

In the sense where Klaus is talking to Elijah and Rebekah he is saying he’s not excusing everything he done in the past he is saying they should have believe in him right there and they should have believed that Klaus wouldn’t want to hurt his kid

Marlene

Hayley does not turn to a werewolf because when a werewolf is pregnant they don’t turn