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Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) - Full Reaction (Patreon)

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Guys I liked it! Maybe I read so many comments on how bad it was, but I was pleasantly surprised? Yes, it was slow in some parts and not a ton of action but yay for space exploration! Looking forward to the others! Hope you enjoy! 

(this was the directors cut by the way)

For some reason the PiB music isn't in the intro/outro, but hoping to get that fixed soon! Everything else is good though :) Also, tomorrow we'll premiere "A Fish Called Wanda" on YT, we'll see you there!

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Michael Enos

Hell yes! Thank you!

Just Plain Bob

Of course you liked it. It’s a great movie.

Bill Maurer

Haven't seen this in decades. Looking forward to watching it with you

Walter Crockett

I read the words…”Guys I liked it!!!.” That made me so happy. I am going to watch you reaction tonight 😀

Walter Crockett

Also this movie came out exactly 44 years ago. December 8 1979. So great Christmas Movie Choice….lol

MatthewBrown74m

You'll love wrath of khan more! Lol

Jake McNulty

I cannot recommend enough "2001: A Space Odyssey". You'll find that it has influenced not just this film, but a great deal of science fiction cinema that has come since.

Bubba Fett

I wouldn't say it's bad but there are so many better ones. It's hard to justify watching when wrath of Kahn exists, not to mention the Undiscovered country. At least for me.

Matt O'Keefe

I am glad you liked it. I hope you love all of them. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is the tough one for a lot of fans. Old fans like me like the 1st movie though it is slow.

Mike LL

Yes, Cassie! The success of Star Wars is directly responsible for getting Star Trek onto the big screen! Just watching the first half hour tonight and will watch the rest tomorrow! So happy you sat through the Overture! 🤣🤣🤣Excellent! I know this will be a great reaction!!

Alex Ch

Hey, can any of the viewers let me know which cut this is? If she says at the start I apologize for not watching before posting.

Pickupthepieces76
>>124023752

I rewatched V couple years back. Wasn't that bad in the sense that I wasn't expecting much of course and not holding it up to the grand cinematic experience fans were hoping for back then. But it kinda seemed like a long classic episode which was kinda nice. And some nice character moments.

Bubba Fett
>>124023704

Well in her case for now obviously, I'm just saying the general sentiment of people having seen them all being less enthused for this one compared to others, isn't that this is so bad so much as there are better ones out there.

Shawn Kildal

The original cast actually made 6 movies together concluding with Star Trek 6 The Undiscovered Country.

Greggory Shaw

Cassie, you will love - Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan The best of the Star Trek moives!

Patrick Flanagan

Glad to hear that you liked it! I've had friends who were new to TREK try the first movie and bounce off it pretty hard. It really is a 1960s-style science fiction movie, for good and for ill, in terms of style and pacing. Starting with the second film the series feels much more modern I think (well, for 40 year old films, anyway...)

Mark Vaderr

Glad to hear you enjoyed this, Cassie. I think this is a fine movie, despite the slow parts. Looking forward to the LIVE on Saturday! WooHooo!

Katie Jackson

I have to be at work in 7 hours but I'm looking forward to watching this when I get home. It should make my day go a bit faster. Looking forward to the live too.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

I feel like the new Enterprise being introduced was a very long scene, but I imagine that if you were someone who was a fan of the show, and never expected to see the Enterprise again after the show was cancelled, no idea that the success of Star Wars would mean you would get a Star Trek movie, that scene must have been so absolutely epic.

Steve Holton

If it helps. The link to the director's cut on Paramount Plus. This is the version for this reaction. https://www.paramountplus.com/movies/video/7MI9dv6oQQCo733jnwnv4bT6WjSY_mBr/

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

Oh wow, haven't seen this in so long I totally forgot it opens with the same theme music as The Next Generation, I got goosebumps, loved that show so much as a kid.

John Liebling

Mis Congeniality was 21 years after this first movie. First Star Trek pilot was 1965, with Jeffrey Hunter as Captain Pike...no Kirk. Where No Man Has Gone Before was the second pilot with Shatner's Kirk. I think you know that Shatner is a dog lover and Canadian.

zynjams

this movie was made for the fans of the TV show Star Trek, bringing back our old friends that we haven't seen in 12 years except in reruns. if you weren't from that era it may seem long and boring, but for us Trekkies it was magical, an event. yes the Wrath of Khan returned us to the glory days but the first movie put us back on the Enterprise.

Ike

I haven’t been this excited since Cassie’s first Star Wars reaction. Will she/ won’t she like it? And she likes it! Yay is right.

Pickupthepieces76
>>124027828

Probably my favorite tv show, TNG. When you hear that theme on a grand scale in the movies or alluded to in Trek shows later on, it's always goosebumps for me.

Brian McGovern
>>124023752

I actually don't mind 5. It did suffer from getting a cut in the budget and the effects show that, but overall, it felt like a movie more in keeping with the original series. All the others were certainly more commercial fare.

Pickupthepieces76
>>124027171

Now that they had the budget to do proper special effects, they really went all out with showing off the Enterprise in this movie. So it had to be long to get their money's worth I guess. But they liked it so much they reused the footage for movie 2. 😂

Jens Kristensen

Very cool. When I was younger, I found it very slow. But as I got older and rewatched it again and again, I really think its a great movie, which showcases the Enterprises mission to explore new "worlds" and lifeforms. The movie wasn't a big succes at the theater, and I remember Leonard Nimoy saying in the great documentary: "For The Love Of Spock", that he thought that the movie was too focused on effects rather like the show which was more character based. I still love the scene where Kirk and Scotty cruise around the Enterprise in spacedock and the fantastic music by Jerry Goldsmith peaks...

Tara

Cassie: “Is that Spock?” “Is he wearing a wig?” Not five minutes in and I’m cracking up 🤣

Gábor Árki

Christmas came early this year. This movie has been sitting on my #1 spot on Popcornrequests for a while. I wasn't sure but had a hunch Cassie would overall like it. Can't wait to watch this reaction tonight. This movie has been my introduction to the original characters of Star Trek, and I love it ever since. As a teen I started watching the next gen shows in the late 90s and after becoming a fan I blindly purchased the newly released DVDs of the movies, including the Director's Edition of The Motion Picture. I admire how it tries to do something different and explore the deeper themes of the franchise, rather than just focusing on action/adventure. I acknowledge its shortcomings, but I still think it's a masterpiece in its own way. And the music by Jerry Goldsmith is fantastic and for me it defines the sound of Star Trek. It enhances the movie and makes it more unforgettable. Star Trek: The Motion Picture has a fascinating story behind its making. It was born out of an attempt to revive the original series, which CBS had cancelled in 1969. The new series, called Star Trek: Phase II, was in the works in the late 70s, with most of the original cast on board, except for Leonard Nimoy. They had already prepared sets, costumes, and started screen testing with actors when Star Wars hit the theaters in 1977 and sparked a sci-fi frenzy. Paramount then decided to turn the series into a movie, hoping to ride the wave of popularity. This was one of the first times a TV show was turned into a film. They literally had infinite budged, but the premiere date was set early on, and this meant they had a very tight schedule and little time to complete the movie. The production faced many challenges. They had to hurry the editing, the effects, and the sound mixing. Some effect shots were flawed or had missing elements, some were not finished at all. The director Robert Wise was very dissatisfied with the final product, but he had no other option but to present it at the premiere as is. He and his crew literally brought the first wet print from the lab to the theatre by hand, which no one has seen before. He always wanted to make the movie he had in mind, and he finally got the opportunity in 2000 when he released a director's cut for a DVD release. But soon after, with the advent of HD, the director's cut has been overshadowed again until 2022, when they finally did an amazing remaster in 4K.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff
>>124027171

Haha that's true, I remember that. I'm so happy Cassie is reacting to these, can't wait for her to watch Wrath of Khan, and hopefully keep going into the Next Generation movies too.

Darren Young

Check out Tenacious D doing the words to the theme song, it’s on YouTube.

djKENTO

Hey Cassie did you know that Leonard Nimoy, the actor who played Spock, well he made a song about Bilbo Baggins. Enjoy: https://youtu.be/BC35cQKHwzg?si=6Zt5qBv0ZRMGgvEH

Stick Figure Studios
>>124027828

Correction: NEXT GENERATION reused the theme from this and the fifth movie. ;-) For me, it is the definitive Star Trek theme. God bless Jerry Goldsmith (RiP).

Stick Figure Studios
>>124027171

It's also truly breathtaking on a big screen. It really captures Kirk's infatuation with the ship, his one true lady.

Stick Figure Studios
>>124023752

I still enjoy V, but it is easily the weakest of the original movies. Yet I'd still rather watch the worst movie with the original crew than the best movie with the next generation crew.

Stick Figure Studios
>>124023646

I second this. If this kind of epic, stunningly beautiful and contemplative/existential sci-fi is up your alley, you need to see CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND CONTACT, SOLARIS, AD ASTRA and the granddaddy of them all Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY.

Stick Figure Studios
>>124023633

She almost certainly will. Not because it's a "better" movie necessarily, just a different one whose strong points would be more appealing to her. I'm just glad that she liked this one because I think this one really gets a bad rap.

Gábor Árki
>>124027171

Long, but great. I love that scene with the awesome score of Goldsmith. I always appreciated that the Enterprise feels like a character in the movie. Getting its own introduction and beauty shots and how it is used to convey scale. Seemingly so large at the beginning and then practically dwarfed by V'Ger. The refit is still my all-time favorite design of the Enterprise.

Lamar Smith

Dearest Cassie, I think, but not 100% sure, that your recap is just a touch off. Voyager was a real probe launched from earth and made flybies of several of our solar systems planets. I’m pretty sure Jupiter was one and possibly one of the other gas giants, either Saturn or Uranus on its way out of our solar system. That’s actual history. Star Trek picks up the narrative 300 years later. As I think I understand it, the premise is that Voyager/V’ger was sent to continually collect data. Through that process of continually acquiring new and more information, V’ger ultimately reached a level of knowledge that allowed it to become sentient/self-aware. I’m guessing it’s analogous to the fears we have today about AI becoming sentient and being able to adapt and grow beyond human’s ability to control or counter it. It’s, fundamentally, super-simple and super-scary: once ANY kind of organism gains the ability to think/act/evolve faster than humans can, well, you’ve got, essentially, a ‘Terminator’/‘Matrix’ situation where humans are outclassed. Remember a minor plot point in the ‘Matrix,’ Morpheus states that it was the machines who burnt Earth’s atmosphere forcing humans underground to Zion. The machines calculated that frying the atmosphere would hurt both sides but that the machines could withstand the damage better than humans. The whole part about V’ger needing to return to Earth/the source/the Creator seems awfully hokey to me: why would a sentient being more powerful, intelligent and faster-thinking than the entire human race need anything from humans? Certainly the real Voyager was never designed to return to earth, it was always a one-way mission.

Andrew Rose

It's ok Cassie, I can't do it 🖖either lol, and as someone who saw this at the theater, it was long back then too.

Anthony Perez

OMG...was that Cassie cracking her knuckles when Bones and Kirk were talking in Kirks room ?

JRCortez
>>124024323

She says at the beginning it's the director's cut. If she watched it off the Paramount+ app it's the remastered 4K version released last year.

John Liebling

Cassie, I am not sure how many Star Trek movies you want to watch. There are 6 from the original crew. The 1979 Motion Picture you're watching now and #6 The Undiscovered Country in 1991. There was a cross over with Shatner showing up in the first Next Generation movie I won't spoil the ending. The rest of us know what happened. Three more will follow. #4 is really bad. The new movies from JJ Abrams staring Chris Pine - they've had three so far. As far as TV goes: You've got Animated original series from the early 70s. You've got Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise...which is a prequel long before Kirk...Discovery only a decade before Kirk, the animated Lower Decks - which provides a lot of humor, and currently the latest one with Christoper Pike as captain of the Enterprise, "Strange New Worlds" all with a younger Spock and a different actor playing a younger Kirk.

JRCortez

There's an excellent story written last year about the three versions of ST: TMP here: https://tinyurl.com/3mehm8my

John Liebling

For what its worth, my suggestion is that you watch the original Star Trek movies II, III, and IV...because they are connected to one another. #5 is a stinker. #3 and #4 was directed by Lenard Nimoy. #5 was directed by Shatner. In a what the heck moment you might as well go for #6 its the last one where all these actors are together. Shatner and Nimoy at the time were 60 years old.

John Liebling

And maybe you can have a star trek poll for the top 4 you'd like to watch from Next Generation and the top 4 from Voyager.

John Liebling

Cassie, you did very well explaining the ending. You got it. Now you're ready for more movies with better pacing and a lot more humor.

Cliff Adams

One aspect often overlooked by younger viewers who know The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, and all the Star Treks since, is that other than the Animated Series, Star Trek had only been seen in reruns for a decade. Spending long scenes of simply looking at the updated Enterprise was joy to Trekkies. Seeing the detailed shots of every angle of the ship on the big screen was magic in 1979. The plot was similar to two original series episodes mashed together, but it worked to show the visuals. New hairpieces (we needed to wait for Captain Picard to see them baldly go where no man had gone before), new cheesy uniforms, up to the minute special effects, and a returning cast made this work.

Stick Figure Studios
>>124032778

Goodness, man. Don't overwhelm her. All that Star Trek product can be so intimidating to a newbie. Let's just let her enjoy the original movies for now and deal with the rest later.

Stick Figure Studios
>>124029243

I'm with you. I love this movie. It just awes me. And fortunately, it was a big success in its initial release (grossed $139 million on a $44 million budget). If it hadn't been, we never would've gotten that terrific sequel.

Robert da Spruce

Let’s see Cassie…You can’t do the “Live Long and Prosper” 🖖 You can’t wink. You’re 0 for 2 😉 Jk! The original Star Trek TV series was a little before my time. So I enjoyed watching some of the primer episodes with you. I have seen a few episodes here and there. Like the Tribble episode. But I have seen all the movies though. I agree the pacing was a little slow. And some of the shots, like the initial fly around the Enterprise, were too long. But the V-Ger, Voyager twist was very clever. Looking forward to the next one!

Shawn Kildal

Even though the reviews of this first movie were mixed by critics and fans alike during that time, Paramount did give the green light for a sequel because it was a box office success. Gene Roddenberry wanted to do a time travel movie for the sequel that had something do with the assassination of JFK. The studio didn't like it, knew they had to go in a different direction and brought in a new producer and director for the second movie, and we got science fiction greatness. James Horner did the music score for it too. Horner is best known for Titanic, Aliens, Field of Dreams, Apollo 13, Braveheart and Legends of the Fall, among many others.

TinCan Cosmanaut

I feel like the regular episodes had better pacing (first time watcher of movies/OG series) i enjoyed the problem with kibble more than the movie Am i alone (as a first time viewer)?

Shawn Kildal

Star Trek 2, 3 and 4 is considered by most a Trilogy.

Ike

Star Trek: The Motion Picture - in a Nutshell So, if I lost my cellphone and it traveled into space at magnificent (almost ludicrous or plaid) speeds - this device may eventually acquire the means to extend its battery life and memory, take snapshots of every known celestial phenomena, and save every iota of data until it grows a conscious - it may also return to me several hundred years later wanting a big hug and NOT a simple a text "Good Job!" text message after entering my PIN. This seems fair and makes sense! In that rare case, I might have to bond with my iPhone X. Not my favorite Star Trek movie, but I REALLY enjoyed the improvements made in this Director's Edition - and I am so pleased the You & PIB gang are enjoying all the Trekkie goodness!

Jens Kristensen
>>124029243

Yes! "The Wrath Of Khan" is simply glorious science fiction from start to finish. I wonder if Cassie could beat the 'Kobayashi Maru' test?

David Freese
>>124034180

no you’re not alone. This movie was to be a pilot for a new tv series on a new network that never came to be. Because of the success of Star Wars an hour worth of plot was expanded into a two hour movie. It was rushed and has too many slow spots. The pacing of the series was a lot better. But fear not the next 3 are intertwined and sooooo much better.

Alex Ch
>>124034180

I can say that the pacing in this is not representative of the TV show - and it’s slower than the films going forward as well.

Tara

I was about 8 years old when they filmed this at Paramount Studios in Hollywood and my Aunt was good friends with Nichelle Nichols (Lt Uhura) and she brought us to visit the set of this first movie one day. I remember walking around the Enterprise corridors, the elevator and the bridge. When I was in the corridor, red lights started flashing and I had to stop moving because they were filming a scene. My brother and I got to sit in Captain Kirk’s chair on the bridge and I sat at Lt Uhura’s station. At one point Nichelle said “Let’s go find Captain Kirk.” My brother and I turned around and he was standing right there with Leonard Nimoy. It was pretty exciting meeting them. The other thing I remember is the viewing window that they look out of on the bridge was just a giant square hole in the set on the sound stage. When I was standing on the bridge looking out through the hole, I could see lights and other things you’d find on a stage sound. I’m sorry if that ruined the magic for anyone.

Tara

Cassie, if you want to watch the original series, you should. You seem to really like the characters and it seems like a lot of people would be interested since nobody else is reacting to the original series 🍿🖖🏼

Gábor Árki
>>124032946

What a nice coincidence Cassie putting out her reaction on December 7 when the movie originally released on December 7, 1979.

Guy Gordon

It's always amusing to see who can do the Vulcan hand gesture or not. It seems like a quarter or so of the people I've known that have tried aren't able to. I've never had any trouble with it. I know one person who is left handed and can only do it with their right. Bizarre how those differences work.

sarCC

Sooooo excited for you to watch The Wrath Of Khan next. Not just the best Star Trek entry, but one of the very best sci-fi films, full stop.

Stick Figure Studios

I am so pleased to hear that you liked this. I thought you would... or maybe I just hoped you would as I am a weirdo for whom this is his favorite Trek movie. Yes, they are going to get funnier and more exciting from here on out, but neither the movies nor the shows are ever going to reach the heights of intergalactic beauty nor the depths of existential sublimity of this entry. The second one is a lot of fun, but I'll always consider this first one to be the better science fiction film (and from the director of one of the greatest science fiction films ever made no less: THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL). It was a joy to watch your reaction and see you smiling at the re-introduction of each character (including the Enterprise herself, who is absolutely a character, in that majestic sequence where Kirk sees her again for the first time) and watch intrigued as the story truly does take us boldly "where no man has gone before." Don't apologize for thinking it's too slow (most people do), but for folks like myself who just get drunk on the incredible images, it is a fantastic immersive experience. It might require a bit more patience than your conventional Hollywood blockbuster (it's almost more of an art film in that regard) but I love gazing for as long as possible at those eye-popping effects (all done before computer-generated imagery too; these are practical and optical effects: models, mattes, etc) courtesy of the great f/x wizard Doug Trumball (RIP) who aldo did the effects for BLADE RUNNER and TREE OF LIFE. You followed the philosophical concepts very well, anticipating some of the questions ("Is it a ship or a being at the center of that cloud?" you asked at one point when, in fact, it turned out to be both: a ship that became a being) or even lines of dialogue (suggesting V'Ger was throwing a tantrum right before Bones himself said the same thing). I am amused that you liked the new uniforms as that is one element that almost nobody -- even fans of this movie like myself -- really cares for. They are often referred to as the "pajama" Starfleet dress code. The uniforms for the rest of the series are generally considered better. I was only 3 when this movie came out, so I missed it's original theatrical run, but I got to see it on the big screen recently during a re-release and it was magnificent to behold. Like such other stunning sci-fi films as CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND, CONTACT, AD ASTRA, SOLARIS and the granddaddy of them all Kubrick's 2001: SPACE ODYSSEY, it was truly awe-inspiring and It's epic scale was helped in no small part by Jerry Goldsmith's gorgeous orchestral score. You are right about it having a new theme (STAR TREK would go through many different themes over the years), but for my money this is the definitive Trek music: that rousing main title, that sinister V'Ger theme and that tender romantic melody (called "Ilia's Theme") that played during the Overture, which I consider to be one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written for a motion picture. So happy that you are undertaking this whole journey and even happier that you are enjoying it. Get ready... the human adventure is just beginning. :-)

Texas Anla'Shok

That was actually a pretty good summary you gave.

Texas Anla'Shok
>>124035328

Only if your cellphone was fortunate enough to come across a planet of super-duper-hyper-smart phones that built it a ship and gave it the means to return in several hundred years.

Brian McGovern

I wonder if V'ger would understand that message of "watchaadoooing"😂

Dean Holt
>>124033205

If she is just watching the shows to know the cast for the movies there’s not much point in her watching Voyager. And if she is going to continue to the Next Gen films she just needs to watch a couple to know the crew and then I Borg and The Best of Both World’s (which is probably the best trek episode ever).

Ike
>>124030869

Great recap, Lamar. One minor correction (I think) - In the Matrix “it was us [humans] that scorched the sky”, hoping that the machines couldn’t survive without an energy source as abundant as the sun. Then they did, of course… with humans. That was the irony Morpheus spoke of: If humans hadn’t done that, they might have never been prisoners. I think perhaps the writers in this movie were trying to create Man & Machine analogous to God & Man. In many beliefs, man will return to their creator and find a grander meaning, like Voyager was programmed to do. Its “logic” was based on ours despite all that it has gained. Voyager found something it never knew it needed; something as illogical as emotion and self-determination.

Walter

"Okay, are we going in?" might be my favorite moment in this reaction and sums up the movie pretty well.

Harald Mahr

Its not bad, it just has a different feel than the tv show and the follow up movies. And because its different i think i like it the most. At least it stands out.. (cant wait for the reaction to the very next ;))

Mike LL
>>124023646

This is a good point to bring up. Most sci-fi movies fall under the "action/adventure" category of movies. Almost all sci-fi movies, but not Star Trek: The Motion Picture. it is straight up science fiction. So it gets a bum rap, well because it is slow, but it is not an adventure story, it is more cerebral science fiction, and a very intelligent science fiction story it is. No wonder it begs comparisons to some of the movies listed by Stick Figure.

Mike LL
>>124029435

The movie's overall theme of exploring the relationship between man and machine on so many levels is an amazing science fiction story. Science Fiction Star Trek is a great contrast to Space Fantasy Star Wars.

Odd Thomas

There are 6 OG movies, then came Generations which has cross-over characters & introduces the Picard 'Next Generation' crew. (I love Generations, it's so underrated imo). There are 4 Picard movies, Generations, First Contact, Insurrection and Nemesis, then the franchise was completely rebooted in 2009 with Star Trek, Into Darkness and Beyond.

Caomhan84

The original series was from 1966 to 1969. What followed was years of reruns on TV, Which skyrocketed the popularity. They were going to make a second show, called "Star Trek Phase II", and actually got a far bit into pre-production on that. And then Star Wars came out and was a huge success. Paramount then pivoted and made Phase II into a full blown film to get in on the Star Wars/sci-fi success bandwagon. The first film was a success, and they made six movies from 1979 until 1991. "Star Trek The Next Generation" came on TV in 1987, which is what you and your parents watched. That has Patrick Stewart as Captain Picard. They started movies in 1994 to 2002. The main theme music that you heard in this movie was later used as the main theme to The Next Generation, and today is more recognized as that.

Walter

my mother took me to see this in theaters when I was 6-years old. I had seen reruns of the original series so I was familiar with the characters. Of course, this film went right over my 6-year old head. My only memory was me asking my mother to explain what I was seeing, at full voice, in the theater. People around us were shushing me but I wanted very much to understand.

Caomhan84

Cassie..... Don't look now but I think you have turned into a Trek fan. You enjoyed the original episodes and you enjoyed The Motion Picture. You like the characters, you like the Enterprise....it's a done deal. Welcome.😂

Mr Trick

I think you should do another round of classic episodes before you head on to Star Trek 2. To me that show is like comfort food. An easy, fun watch that I revisit anytime I want to relax.

Mr Trick
>>124050905

Also, the Director’s Cut is a far superior version, so you were already starting off on a better foot. Most people’s sense of that movie is based on the theatrical version.

Zane From Canada

"And let me say, may the force be with you." "Do you even know who I am?" "I think I do, weren't you one of the Little Rascals?"

Just Plain Bob
>>124023752

@Stick Figure Studios Agree 100%. Star Trek V is also my least favorite starring the original crew. But the Next Generation films felt like tv movies - and not particularly good ones, at that.

Keith Jones

Thank god I didn’t discover this posted before I went to bed or I would have been up all night! But it’s Friday and I’m psyched, first the series now the movies 🤩

Mike LL

I just finished the reaction and it was glorious. Cassie liked it much more than I thought she would. But what is there not to like? I fell in love with the movie all over again seeing it through Cassie's eyes, and I have not been in love with this movie for some 40 odd years, lol. It is not an action adventure movie, it is pure science fiction, that is what puts most people off, I think. It plays heavy with its man vs machine themes on so many levels. The machine V'Ger with its creators, humans. Kirk and his relationship with the Enterprise. Spock, his machine like self warring with his emotional human half. There is even Kirk and Dekker fighting over the Enterprise. And the ending with the bonding of man and machine. The movie contains some heady science fiction concepts and I find it intellectually stimulating. Thank you for this reaction, Cassie! On to it's action and adventure oriented sequels!

Cole Jennett
>>124064723

Seeing it with Cassie didn’t make it any more exciting, but I’m still glad I watched it. If she liked this one, I can only imagine how much she will like what’s coming!

thansen
>>124050905

It is the best Director's Cut of any film I've seen.

Jayson Phillips

could be i didn't like it because I was a young teen when I saw it and didn't understand all the tech stuff.

Lemurian Jones

Don't feel bad for not being able to do the Vulcan salute. Deforest Kelley couldn't do it either. In the few scenes he does the salute he tied his fingers together with fishing line.

Gábor Árki

Now that I've finally seen the reaction, I think Cassie may have enjoyed it even more than I was hoping for. Starting with a few episodes and being familiar with the characters definitely helped in that. The joy on Cassie's face when she was seeing all the characters re-introduced was great to see, especially Spock. I hoped she would like the plot, the mystery and the philosophical questions the movie poses, but knowing and liking the characters already might have made the difference. I especially enjoyed the moment when Kirk announced to "brace for impact" and Cassie also braced for impact. 😁 I don't think it has to do with being a millennial. This has always been considered a slow movie. Some even call it the "motionless picture". But it is part of a rare genre of movies that focus more on the concepts and questions they provoke than on the action. Movies like BLADE RUNNER (1982) or ARRIVAL (2016). Some similar suggestions: - 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968), the granddad of modern sci-fi movies - CONTACT (1997), which I think Cassie you would really enjoy, and it would make for an excellent reaction - THE MAN FROM EARTH (2007), a personal favorite of mine, made with a minimal budget and takes place in a single setting Regarding the 🖖 symbol not everyone can do it. I remember practicing for some time before I could do it with both hands. I think the trick is to open your thumb wide when you spread your hand, and then bend only your middle and ring fingers to form the gap. At the same time, relax or slightly push back your index and little fingers to keep them close together.

RJ MacReady

the even numbered movies are consider superior to the odd number movies. So 2,4, and 6, are considered the best of the TOS movies. And I would agree though the odd numbers are still well worth watching.

Caomhan84
>>124087877

She would absolutely adore "Contact" I think. I've been advocating for it on the channel for probably more than a year. I hope that it comes up eventually. I saw it in the movie theater in 1997 because a friend of mine was actually an extra in the movie, so I went with him and his family. I loved it back then and I still love it today.

Dean Holt

Well am glad you liked it, because i find this to be the worst one out all the 13 movies. I don’t hate it I just always found it very slow, when they did the director’s cut I personally think it would have benefited then cutting down the runtime anywhere between 90 to 105 minutes it really would have helped with the pacing. Im really interested to see what you make of the rest of the original movies and looking forward to watching you on your journey through this great franchise. I know a lot have said the 2nd is one of the best (including myself) but I really think you will enjoy the 4th one the most. Anyway I hope you have a fantastic weekend and I’m really looking forward to the Mummy Returns as it’s another film I’ve not see in ages 👍

Doug Fisher

Cass... to get the Vulcan Salute down, use your other hand to hold your pinky and ring finger together or to spread your ring and middle fingers. Those are the ones everyone has trouble with because the ring finger and middle finger share the same extensor tendon. It just takes a little bit of training to overcome your natural flex pattern. :) Live long and prosper.

Shane Myers myers

First movie is down. I did love the first film when it came out back in 1979. I was a twelve year old that grew up watching the original series. I was yearning to get to see the Crew of the Enterprise in a new adventure. I am saying all of this to say that I loved seeing the old characters, but I felt that the film did not deliver the chemistry of the tv series. It was a little slow and the bits of occasional humor between the main characters was not there. It just felt a little off from the vibe of the tv show..... Live Long and Prosper 🖖 🖖.... I can give the Vulcan sign with either hand. 😊 I have had a lot of practice during my five plus decades on this Earth.

Shane Myers myers
>>124100252

You thought Star Trek One was worse than Star Trek Five??? I have always thought Star Trek One as boring, but Star Trek Five was a little insulting (Cartoon) to Star Trek Fans. It wasn't Shatners finest moment in his career. There were some good scenes in five. The attempted humor missed the boat.

Scott Macaulay

Cassie whistling and saying 'The Enterprise is lookin' nice' was very endearing. Loved it. Those long beauty shots of the Enterprise were for the Trekkies that had been Trek deprived for 10 years in '79.

Canadianant
>>124033205

Measure of a man was always great as well as darmak. Neither needed for the movies but just good episodes

Brian's Dog

Someone please ask Cassie what her preferred job on the Enterprise would be in the next Q&A. Also I'd like to point out that in both Star Wars and Star Trek, they have never left their own galaxy. It would be like them traveling around just the milky way. The universe is so huge compared to just the galaxy those shows have explored. Mind blowing.

Patrick Flanagan
>>124030869

The Voyager program was real, but only consisted on Voyagers 1 and 2. The Voyager 6 shown here is fictional.

Keith Jones

That was a treat! One thing to remember about Star Trek they are 4 main characters, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and...The Enterprise. Thus the long and lingering views at the beginning. We had not seen her in 10 years, and she had some "work done" (what actress hasn't) So when I saw this in the theater it was magnificent, we couldn't get enough. I'm so happy you are a Scotty fan, as am I, I was fortunate enough to meet him and listen to him speak, he was a kind, engaging man. During the Q&A a young woman with no hair asked a question, James Doohan (Scotty) commented "Ah Lass, you are so pretty why did you cut off your hair". She responded, "Oh it's the chemo". He was so crushed that he hadn't figured that out that he had her on stage, turned off the mics, and spoke with her for 3-4 minutes. A room of 200+ people sat silent as they talked without us hearing a thing. He then turned the mic back on, answered her question and I swear that woman floated back to her seat with the biggest smile you would ever see. When I spoke to him later, I was near the end of quite a long line, but he spoke with me like I was the first, and he was excited to see us all. Over the years I have found that some celebrities can engage with fans at what I call a "high level" making everyone feel special, and never a tax on their time, James Doohan was one of those, and man I miss him.

Patrick Flanagan

Also, I completely forgot but V'Ger/Voyager 6 is basically the same as Voyager 2, the real-life space probe sent into space which you saw in the Jeff Bridges movie STARMAN way back when. In real life we only sent 2 Voyagers up, both in 1977. They are both still active, having left the Solar system in the 2010s and are now traveling through interstellar space.

Stick Figure Studios
>>124100252

@Shane: I agree. V is easily the worst of the original movies.. and yet I'd still rather watch it than the best TNG film or the second Kelvin flick.

Rick Williams

I haven't seen this movie in a long time. And this was my first time seeing the directors cut. Good movie. Some judge it to hard. It did it's job. Reintroducing Star Trek to the world after being off the air for a decade. Showed everyone the new Enterprise and the old crew. Good reaction Cassie. I think you will like the journey through the Star Trek movies.

Anakin Starkiller

The visual effects was the highest given to any movie at the time. About a fourth of the Paramount lot was being used solely for this film. The visual effects came down to the wire and the movie was almost late to it's premiere. Most of the effects were for VGer and the insanely long crawl of the Enterprise Refit.

David Freese
>>124100252

I keep hearing 5 was Shartners failure could it have been because Paramount cut the budget 5 times from inception to getting to the theater. Because of this I blame the studio more even though it’s still not a very good film and I’ve seen better films with a more shoestring budget be a lot better

Thomas Thompson

This is the first time I’ve seen the Directors cut. I’m amazed at how lousy it is by trying to sex up the special effects and adding more colors to the energy cloud they just muddied it they really lost a lot of detail that film looked way way better on the big screen when it first came out.

Gábor Árki
>>124100252

V was suffering from many issues. The script went through several revisions, and everyone had different ideas how to tackle the ending because they felt it would be inevitably underwhelming. Also, the budget has been cut significantly just before production started. Add to that Paramount rushed the movie to production in late 1988 with a very tight deadline of a 1989 summer release. Not to mention ILM has been unavailable due to working on Indy 3 and Ghostbusters 2 and the production didn't have the time to wait them to be available. Not to mention they would have no longer fit into the reduced budget either. Also, Shatner prepared a 2 hour long cut but the studio insisted on keeping the runtime below 1:45 allowing for more screenings per day. So, the final cut of the movie was prepared by producer Harve Bennett despite Shatner's objections. In summary, I believe that the situation was beyond Shatner's control, and he should not be held solely responsible for the outcome. I wonder how the movie would have been different if they had more time and proper budget to make it, but I still think it would have been the least impressive of the series.

Clay F

I had not watched this movie in 40 years. I liked the movie in this rewatch. Has a majestic sense about it. The music, imagery, sci-fi concepts , human, machine, logic, emotion, the Enterprise, the crew, etc.

Dean Holt
>>124100252

Personally I’d rather watch a movie with a few entertaining parts in it like the 5th one than one that’s really dull. But for me they are both 3 or 4 out of ten films. The 5th has a interesting story it’s just executed very poorly. But I do like the parts were the 3 of them are in the park and also the odd bits of humour. The first one also has an interesting story but there’s only enough there for a two part 45 minutes episode. As they really could have cut lots of it out. For example it’s about 5 minutes of Kirk and scotty travelling to the ship that only really needed to be a couple of minutes tops and it’s the same when they are travelling through to get to the Voyager probe all that could have been half the time. Also when they get stuck in the wormhole that wasn’t really needed imo. One thing that would have given the film a much need lift. Is if the Klingons blames Star Fleet for the destruction of the 3 ships at the beginning and they had a bit of a battle.

Dean Holt
>>124100252

I can see why you might not like the TNG movies over the 5th film. Other than First Contact as I actually thought that was a very popular film amongst Trek fans. But if I ranked them all it would be, 13, ST I - 4/10 12, ST V - 4/10 11, Insurrection - 4/10 10, Nemesis - 5/10 9, Into Darkness - 6/10 8, ST III - 6/10 7, Generations - 7/10 6, Beyond - 7/10 5, ST (2009) - 7/10 4, First Contact - 8/10 3, ST IV - 8/10 2, ST VI - 9/10 1, ST II - 9/10

Yaisu

I never understood the hate for this one. Is it the best ST movie? No. But it was a solid film imo. A little long with some shots for sure, especially in the director's cut.

Canadianant

Having watched the next generation when it was airing I never really went back too much and watched early Star Trek episodes too much or the early movies. I was mostly avoiding this one because of how slow everyone said it was. While I did end up enjoying it, when we got to the 36 minute mark and we hadn't left space dock yet, I kind of thought what the hell is going on? When they started doing the glory shots of the Enterprise sitting in the space dock and the eternally slow getting the characters to the ship, I got up to make a pot of tea. I had my cup of tea ready and they still weren't on the ship yet! When even the gracious Cassie said so we actually going to get in there or? Lol. The rest of the movie was interesting and I liked what they did with it but but they literally could have dropped out the first 40 minutes of the movie in it I wouldn't have felt like I missed anything.

John Liebling

It was a different time. Fans could read hundreds of books but there was nothing other than reruns. Original series ended in 1969 and most of that third year was stinko. If it wasn't canceled Lenard Nimoy would have probably left the series. They were all struggling working actors, trying to make enough to pay the bills. Not even Shatner, at the time had much fame or $$$. The animated series in 73 was okay, but not great. By the end of the 70s many fans had watched every episode many dozens of times. Even though the Motion Picture was extremely slow paced, it was welcomed by most fans, when it first arrived. The slow drawn-out beginning was primarily for fans. And the director, who directed the Sound Of Music, was unfamiliar with Star Trek lore...that's why they went back to the source material and created Wrath of Khan.

Lamar Smith
>>124030869

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but do you happen to know if one or both of the Voyagers have left our solar system….. although the border of our solar system is a bit fuzzy , depending on how, exactly, you define the borders. I recall the biggest scandal (not to me!) of Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s career is that he downgraded Pluto from a planet. His committee’s rationalization was that Pluto is just one of many ‘icy bodies that inhabits the area beyond the gas giants, so I’m not sure how far that zone extends. Are we, do you know, still receiving telemetry from one or both?

Stick Figure Studios
>>124119723

Yes. Majestic. Good word. Majesty is something sorely missing from movies nowadays and it's not something you can just inject into your film, you have to earn it through time and effort and patience and beauty. This film does just that.

Jayson Phillips

This was the 1st encounter with the BORG before they started taking over galaxies.

Robin T
>>124116342

I suspect memory may be playing some games with you. There are many FX changes yes, but outside a few key moments that have been completely rebuilt - like Vulcan and the approach to V'Ger island - they are mostly minor continuity tweaks. The vast majority of the exterior spaceship and cloud shots have not been altered. If the image looks "sexed up" it is probably only because this is a new, pristine scan of freshly restored elements, digitally re-composited to preserve more detail than was possible with optical compositing and revealing color and brightness that was always supposed to be there.

Robin T
>>124030869

Both Voyager probes have traveled beyond the Kuiper Belt where Pluto and its fellow dwarf planets are generally found and recently exited the heliosphere - the bubble of the sun's atmospheric influence - into interstellar space. However they are still about 300 years from even entering the Oort Cloud - the last meaningful region of objects orbiting the Sun - and will take around 30,000 years to pass through it. Also, the (in)famous decision to demote Pluto was made by the IAU (generally responsible for the official names of astronomical stuff), it had nothing to do with DeGrasse Tyson. He probably just caught flak from the public for defending that decision.

Robin T
>>124033205

With 7 seasons we're gonna need more than 4 from Next Gen. It's 3 eps just to cover the essential Borg stories.

Lamar Smith
>>124030869

Ah, I just recall him saying he received more hate mail over that than anything else. He defends it by saying “Pluto’s much happier now!”

JPDotCom23

Ok, because it's her and I love watching her reaction videos, I'll watch this movie again, I just did with another Canadian woman who does reaction videos as well, I'll do it again, the ultimate sacrifice.

Walter
>>124119723

This movie was influenced by 2001 A Space Odyssey. The sequels went after the Star Wars crowd.

Clay F
>>124119723

Wow. I did not know that. I can see it being influenced by 2001 A Space Odyssey.

Riley

How do we convince Cassie to do The Next Generation/Deep Space 9?!?! I need this in my life!

KnittingHaven

I was still young when this came out, 13, but I had grown up watching the reruns of the original series and the animated series. It really was so very exciting to see the characters again in the theater!! Really, for me, all of the original series movies were more about spending time with these characters than the actual plot or action in the movie. Even movie 5, I agree it's the weakest, but still has some great character moments, one of my favorite opening scenes, and my favorite quote, but may be a bit spoilery to say it here now. The start of The Next Generation had that same excitement and joy of just being back in the same universe, and Deep Space Nine is probably my favorite series, but I also enjoyed Voyager. I hope maybe you can watch a selection of TNG and DSN, especially one called "Trials and Tribble-ations" :) and watch at least the first 2 TNG movies. I think you might enjoy watching all these TV shows on your own, probably too much to do for the channel, though.

Sample-Text

A lot of movies from back then had much slower pacing. "2001: A Space Odyssey" for example. This was not out of place at the time, and the directors edition did make several scenes longer. I liked the first one, but it was never my favorite. They definitely get better as you go along (IMHO).

rakesh
>>124339386

after khan tell her... The needs of the many..........

Jamie van Brewen

Cassie, I don't think I'm going to have a sound night's sleep until you do Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. (Yes, I said the exact same thing on the YT edit video, but I don't know if you're more likely to see one or the other.)

JPDotCom23

Something interesting about the 'Space Seed' episode, if you watched it, Chekov was not in that episode, he didn't join until season 2, yet he was the first one who noticed Khan in the movie.

JPDotCom23

Consciencing? lol, that was cute

JPDotCom23

Can't wait to see you do the rest, this was a weak one

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2024-03-29 05:19:13 When she mentioned her celibacy entering the bridge I had the same reaction you did Cassie lol. I darted my face around going "W-what?? What did she have to mention that for?"
2024-01-30 03:44:43 When she mentioned her celibacy entering the bridge I had the same reaction you did Cassie lol. I darted my face around going "W-what?? What did she have to mention that for?"

When she mentioned her celibacy entering the bridge I had the same reaction you did Cassie lol. I darted my face around going "W-what?? What did she have to mention that for?"

Astramirran (edited)

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2024-03-29 05:19:13 1:22:09 One reason that the 'essentials' list from a tv show should include a few more than just what.. was it 4 episodes?
2024-01-30 04:16:51 1:22:09 One reason that the 'essentials' list from a tv show should include a few more than just what.. was it 4 episodes?

1:22:09 One reason that the 'essentials' list from a tv show should include a few more than just what.. was it 4 episodes?

Biajja Chiemara

The V'Ger "homeworld" was actually a Borg controlled/assimilated planet. It is canon now that V'Ger is using a Borg created vessel.