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Ana

Thank you for dropping this now they can finally stfu

Shadow

Straight peak

Shadow

Gek on top

Melizé

YESSS

Jv1300

Lfg!

Voilturez

LETS GO

Dev

ayy

PST3

I thought Briggs quit when they disrespected his Tywin with a death on the toilet

Zipzzty

YES W PEAK

Hailey “Beloved” Robeson

And from here, Tyrion in the show becomes completely different - from Tyrion in the bookks

Ana

But yaaay finally this was the episode I was waiting for.

Jiggy

Let’s fucking go ladies and gentlemen 👺

LuvStarburst

Everyone was waiting for this fucking episode. I can't believe we're gonna be on season 5 already.

Seth Aasland

pov: your about to fall asleep and the geks post a reaction 😭

1999

Paused a Shogun episode to watch this even tho it’s 3:36 AM

Shadow

It’s so early but a got post won’t go unwatched

Slussh

YESSSS

TheSauceGuy

This is gonna be peak

David S.

There’s no better feeling than seeing that GOT Patreon notification 😭😭 let’s goooo

ooAlmondMilk

How will this affect Tywin's legacy?

Massah

Can we get more consistent uploads, thanks.

Thicc Thanos

IT’S OUT! … and I’m not talking about the episode

Ana

@Emma idc what you do. You'll be gone the 19th remember ? 😊

Sean Carroll

Well it’s been fun guys. For me tywins death signifies the official death of game of thrones as a “masterpiece” tv show. While i still enjoy a few episodes from now on, season 5 is the beginning of the decline into what becomes the worst final two seasons I’ve ever seen. I’m still keen for the reactions but all you positivity merchants aren’t going to stop me from expressing my frustration with what’s to come.

TheSauceGuy

Nah Mckay, for a first watch without reading books, season 6 has some really good moments.

Ana

@Emma stop deleting your comments stand on what you're saying. This like the fourth comment you deleted

Teri M

YES!!! Been waiting for this

Kreis

Another peak episode in this Juicy season!!1!🔥 Looking forward to watch the react later~

jblakk

I always say, Seasons 1-4 is Classic GoT. 5-6 is a mix between classic with some flaws. 7-8 isnt bad, its just lack of a better comparison, MCU coded. Its way more commercial and only looked as bad due to what came before it.

Ana

@Emma are you dumb? You keep coming under my comments when I did not send for you. Are you obsessed with me or something? Im sorry but you're not my type. Yeah keep it light because you don't want it to get dark. Trust me

jblakk

Hope you get some sleep so youre not tired for HoTD tmrw, thanks for the all-nighter Carter!

Molly

Been refreshing my notifications all day 🤩

Asbjørn Kennedy

Gendry’s actor tweeted “Still rowin’…” after this episode had aired 😅😂

PST3

Season 6 has 2 of the best episodes in the show. I won't mention the numbers to ruin their experience.

Hannah

HBO were funny af for releasing this episode on Father’s Day🤭🤣

Hannah

Tyrion paid his debt to Oberyn done him justice by killing Tywin

JAY

oh hellloooo. thanks boys!

Hannah

Also y’all I’m so not ready for Hotd tomorrow be ready for the water works😭

Bradlynn Andrus

I just watched this episode myself and I am so upset…

JAY

I will be here to champion season 6 and may debate you on things going forward from here but please remember it is all in good fun. 💕

Peyton

treat this as the proper ending got your own sake lol

Bri-Ana Monique

“The man with the most aura died on the toilet” 😂😂

Shadow

Tywin a real sh*tter

Sean Carroll

Yeah it’s definitely all in good fun, I’m just not someone that ever panders to people who are positivity merchants because I always receive the complaint when I decide to put something forth that’s not popular

Bri-Ana Monique

Prepare for winter to really arrive in season 5 ❄️🙂‍↕️

Patrick

Do the lads on the ends seem a bit harder to hear than usual in this episode or is it just me?

TheSauceGuy

The Hound is savage lol, but he met his match.

Nomaan

I think people need to realise this is fantasy show above all with magic so anything new shouldn’t really be shocking 😭

TheSauceGuy

Shae doesn't love Tyrion in the books and is simply doing her job for money; she also doesn't go for the knife, so it's more like Tyrion is straight-up murdering her.

TheSauceGuy

Cannon, when you said Tywin's death had to be epic, it was SO FUNNY. Also, Littlefinger foreshadowed this moment by saying people "die squatting over their chamberpots" haha.

TheSauceGuy

Also, not to defend Shae, but she was a prostitute, and Tywin could have her killed or done whatever he wanted with her. I don't think she had much choice in the matter unless you'd rather she get herself killed. If she listened to Tyrion in the first place, none of this would've happened to her though.

Teri M

Nope. Season 5&6 are awesome...even some season 7 episodes

Nomaan

I prefer Tyrion from the books but show Tyrion isn’t all bad

Kite

arya more like aura

Sean Carroll

You can say that as much as you want, it doesn’t make it true. Like I said, there are still some fantastic episodes. But one or two fantastic episodes a season don’t save the seasons which still have major writing problems

creeper doodle

GRRM has stated before that he was 'out of the loop' for seasons 5, 6, 7 and 8. Season 5 has some things from the books, Dance was big enough to adopt things from it into season 5 still, though a lot of it was just kinda made up by D&D.

jblakk

Eh, yes and no. People misuse the phrase plot hole. Plot hole is for things that cant be explained, not for things that arent explained, and most things people complain about is the latter.

Leo

I think you guys will enjoy season 6 more than this. I honestly think season 4 is overrated compared to season 6

Lauren

👏🏽brienne definitely did her big one. but i love sandor too 😭 even when he’s dying he’s soo fkn funny & arya savage asf robbing him & leaving him there like that🤣 he deserved that fs

Sean

4>6>3>2>1>5>7>8

Jengit

McKays look when Canon asked if this is Cersei💀😂

PST3

Tywin's aura got turned into a Potpourri Lannisters down 2 games this playoff series

Nat Brojeni

finally yesssssss!!!!! best reaction by far. Can't wait for the next episode.

Asbjørn Kennedy

Tyrion’s speech at his trial is still the most peak moment for me, and it is not. even. close. Peter’s acting and delivery in that scene is so effin good

Philbo

you saying that reminded me of certain events that transpire in S8 and im now beyond frustrated lol

Nat Brojeni

To you it might not be true. Every ones different some people enjoy it. its ok that you don't.

TheSauceGuy

Carter, with the death of Theon and the birth of Reek, where would you place him in your character list now?

Nat Brojeni

I truly think the guys should block comments. so no one can spoil it for you. Just an idea

lukilol

so funny seeing Mckay trying to control his face when somebody says something close to whats actually gonna happen 😁

Dounia Ghodbane

I hope we get season 5 ep 1 today as well ! Great reaction guys so excited to continue the show with you ;)

TheSauceGuy

Carter, you make a great point about many of the side characters being good. I really wish more shows and movies were like this.

Leo

Cannon prediction was on point about jon 😂😂

C2-H5-OH

Tywin's death in the books was written so well: ============= For once, his father did what Tyrion asked him. The proof was the sudden stench, as his bowels loosened in the moment of death. Well, he was in the right place for it, Tyrion thought. But the stink that filled the privy gave ample evidence that the oft-repeated jape about his father was just another lie. Lord Tywin Lannister did not, in the end, shit gold. =============

Scinaps

I think the boys ought to make up their own minds without us telling them which season is best - "what can be unburdened by what has been" 🤣🤣

chloe

i think there are still a few great episodes in s5 & s6. my favorite episode is in s6. s7 is where it all went downhill for me definitely

Sean Johnson

"Never trust a wHore" -Brigg

Dani

This season is so good, but yall are not ready for season 6. I think you'll give it a 10.

Scinaps

He did teach her in an earlier season, "dead men don't need gold." She's doing to him what he did to that innocent family.

LuvStarburst

I loved when several episodes back cannon said Tywin would die but he wants him to go out epically. I knew this episode was coming and the reaction was the best lol.

Caraxes🐐DT

If only the hound was 100% lol remember he got bit and they been looking for food at every stop. Also to me Arya didn’t want to kill the hound because she grew so close to him and no way the guy with the most aura got killed on the shitter? Daemon on top 🤣

Shadow

Season 4 so good holyyyy

vally

I would rate season 5 and 6 (even with some of the mistakes) a little higher than 4, so don’t worry there are a lot of great things to come

Adam Dark

In the end ,"Tywin Lannister didn't shit Gold"

mk

we are slowly entering the dark realms of no source material left and more and more significant deviations from the books (still enjoyable for the most part tho)

ken

My personal ranking is 6>4>3>7>2>1>5>8 and I’d rate season 1 a 8.8 out of 10 so I think you guys will really enjoy what’s coming

Paul Durbin

"People die at their dinner tables, they die at their beds, their die... squatting over their chamber pots." - Littlefinger S4E8

Sean Johnson

Loving the euphoria moments from the boyz at the end

Leo

You guys are always talking about books but trust me there more people who didn't read book(just like me) and they will enjoy the show especially season 6 more than season 4(as I did). You book readers are brainwashing everyone saying season 4 is peak and after that everything is downfall but it is not.

Leo

This should be common knowledge (6>4=5)

Leo

@Zipzzty Season 4 is good I agree with that but season 6 is GOATED

BreezyBri

Defending Shae is weird to me too. Honestly I feel like the show kind of botched her character. In the books it’s very clear she doesn’t love Tyrion, and Tyrion is a much more gray character in the book as well. I feel like the show tired to get rid of that and make it a love story but kind of faltered towards the end. I don’t know. I don’t particularly care about Shae or her romance with Tyrion, they made her annoying throughout the show.

Paul Durbin

Hmm 2>4>3>6>1>5>7>8 I just have a soft spot for season 2 cause that's when I started watching ha

Sanji

“I don’t see how this is people’s favorite season unless something insane happens this episode” HAHHAHAHAH

Paul Durbin

Yeah the show gets further and further away from the books as the show goes on. I'd say season 1 was like 95% literally just the book, but then less and less as it gets further and further. Season 5 and 6 is when they ran out of book material, but season 6 was still fantastic imo. I consider season 7 and 8 basically a different show, since 100% of it is made up by D&D and its obvious. Although still some great moments in 7&8. But yeah I'd say it dropped after 6. (As a book reader)

mk

chill guys, i wrote it is still enjoyable, but goes in very different directions from the books from now on (even this episode) again: still worth watching, even the last two seasons

Wiifty

“Lord Tywin Lannister did not, in the end, shit gold”

JAY

SAY THAT WORD AGAIN 🏹🏹 UGH such a good episode.. such a good reaction. excited to continue!

JAY

nah i wont be positivity merchant but i will joust with you on things to come and put my arguments forth haha . it'll be fun 😈

Wiifty

George RR Martin has no involvement in the last 4 seasons. He had many ideas but HBO shut him out of the creative process and stopped listening to him.

Roy Koopa

It’s just the reality of it. Sure, knowing what Dorne was supposed to be makes 5 seem a lot worse. But even without knowing that, the way the Sandsnakes are presented is just obviously awful. The way that whole storyline goes with Doran and Elaria is just obviously a mess. And episode 10’s just weird - like they didn’t pace it properly. But I do agree on one thing. Season 5 gets more hate than it deserves. But season 6 gets more love than it deserves. Sure, season 6 has great moments. But when you actually have time to think about it, a lot of it just doesn’t make sense or is obviously rushed. Not as rushed as 7 and 8, which are actually stupid, but rushed.

JAY

i have to agree but maybe its moreso on rewatches? idk i wish i could remember how i felt about the seasons rankings the first time watching. season 6 my goat now, however i would give this season finale one of the best eps of the series.

tp

The funniest part of Tywin's death (in the book) is that he shits himself when he dies and afterwards his body smells so bad that people get sick if they come close to it. He wanted a legacy so bad just to be reduced to that "Lord Tywin Lannister did not, in the end, shit gold"

Blackeyedlily

The title of this episode being The Children has so many implications. You have the Children of the Forest introduced. You had the focus on how Dany can’t control her children, which resulted in the death of a child. And you have the fact that this episode focused on Tywin’s children, who will all be impacted greatly by his death. And that epic ending with Arya sailing off to Braavos.

Muhammad Affan

Game of Thrones also died with Tywin Lannister. Everything went downhill from here because there are no books to follow pretty much after this. There is very less source material published. The David and Dan made clueless seasons devoid of logic and any where as good as the first four seasons after this season. I will not watch the next seasons with you guys. I just wish Martin had published books sooner and we had them for the rest of seasons as well. Season 5 to 8 has some moments but it is just plain terrible most of times.

tp

Arya looking like Nymeria, who she named her direwolf for, at the end 🥲

ro anna

Charles Dance i'll miss you

Shay Kumar

For real. All these comments about people's preferences may not be spoilers, but they def indirectly influence/impact how the Geks may react to the rest of the show. Let em make up their own minds.

Shpitz

In the books iirc the hounds death scene play pretty much the same except that when Arya leaves she says "you should have saved my mother". Which is like so spiteful and petty in my eyes, but the show probably dropped it to make her more likeable, which it does with a few characters(mainly tyrion)

Delane Gill

I’m so glad Tywin died because imagine how much the writers would butcher his character in future seasons without the books as guidelines

Dani

That’s not true, seasons 5 to 7 were widely praised and has high ratings among all websites, critics and audience. But after season 8 came out all this hate and drama started. Some of yall need to stop being so dramatic. And no the books didn’t end with season 4.

Ben U

Season 6 is so forgettable outside of like 3 episodes

Goat

The thing is, season 5 still has a lot of book content to cover. There will be a lot more great stuff in the seasons to come, including some of the seeds Martin planted with a satisfying payoff when you realize how much of it he had planned from the beginning

Sean Carroll

Still a poor season overall despite two amazing episodes. And technically even one of those episodes is riddled with writing mistakes that detract from it being a perfect episode

redpgps345

what’s 4 + 10 dogg?

Sean Carroll

I promise you Pavan, given what they have loved about the first four seasons shows to me they won’t enjoy season 6 as much as you think they will. I promise you season 6 is no where near as good as people hype it up to be. People say season 6 is the best but only talk about those two amazing episodes. Outside of that people don’t have much to say about season 6

Leo

@mk, hell with your books. Show is for all not only for book lovers

Sean Carroll

Of course they can make their own minds up, they are grown men. Doesn’t stop the rest of us saying what we think of seasons etc as long as we don’t spoil

Sean Carroll

I promise you they won’t, it’s not as good as some people think it is

Sean Carroll

Wild take. Season 4 is almost perfect. 5and 6 overall are average delving into poor

Sean Carroll

Exactly, people overhype season 6 when the whole season is riddled with writing problems that detract from the season.

Sean Carroll

Please don’t listen to Ken, I’ve never seen anyone rank 7 so high and 1 so low

Sean Carroll

Seasons 5 and 6 are riddled with writing problems which are obvious to those who look, it doesn’t matter what fan rating websites say as the majority of people loved the show all the way until season 7 and ignored the mistakes. There are a select few of us who actually critically analyse what we are watching

ken

Just went through the episode list and 5 is really carried by the last 3 episodes so I switched them. loved season 1 just think the rest is a little bit better

Sean Carroll

Yes there is definitely still a lot of very good stuff coming however the mistakes start to appear a lot more from now on and it just devolves into a complete mess from 7-8

Leo

Sean, people only talk about those two episodes because they overshadows everything. Apart from those 2 episodes also that season is good and that 2 episodes alone clears whole season 4.

ken

Switched 1 and 5. I Stand by the rest but it’s very close

Sean Carroll

Absolutely not pavan, one of those amazing episodes also has one big writing mistake which detracts from the episode upon a rewatch. I don’t deny it is one of the best episodes in the show but it’s hard to ignore that huge mistake. Also 2 amazing episodes don’t save an average season in my eyes

jace Z

5,6 and 7 are still pretty decent in their own right

lola

Wow people are insufferable. I wonder why they even bother to continue watching the reactions and shows if they’re going to be under every comment section speaking ill about the later seasons of the show. The show is not perfect but a lot of us actually prefer 5-6. With that said, people need to allow the boys to think for themselves and stop giving their two cents because YOU ARE RUINING THE EXPERIENCE. They’re going into the seasons with apprehension and will look to find any misstep. ANYWAYS GEKS, SEASONS 5-6 ARE PEAK (I truly believe this but I’m only saying this bc people give me no choice but to undue the damage). Don’t listen to the book nerds. Most annoying people on the face of the Earth. The show has some of the all time best episodes in the coming seasons!! Enjoy 🫶

skystrawberry

just wait for seson 5 fight scene uff

lola

Sean… i beg you to get a job. You’re literally under every comment being insufferable regurgitating how much you hate the later seasons and truthfully no one cares. How about you allow the boys to think for themselves and stop giving your two cents??? You’re going to ruin the experience for them.

Vlad Lena

Definitely one of the best episode of entire show! So much happened and almost every plot line had epic development or end!

Kwisatz

Geks need to chill with the bright lights. Feels like I'm getting flash banged watching this. I can endure it because the Geks rock but something to think about

Ana

Kwisatz

I love the word Schadenfreude. I've seen it used in English conversations a few times

Jessica

Thank you lola!! It’s okay to say things you don’t like about the later seasons but also why do it every single post it’s just annoying reading the same stuff all the time!! Mix it up with some positivity for the love of the seven 😡

Delane Gill

Damnn I feel like you guys were a bit harsh on Jack for his rating at the end. A 9/10 is still an incredibly high rating and obviously everyone has their own personal scale and standards that they use when rating episodes and seasons

Jessica

Sean you are absolutely right. But as a first time watcher it’s not so noticeable, they are probably gonna enjoy it!!

lola

Like we get it!!! The writing in seasons 1-4 are on another level compared to the later seasons but 5-8 is still better than all the shows on Netflix, Hulu, etc combined. GOT is in a league of its own which is why we compare each season to the rest of the seasons.

Jonesy

i do think season 6 is my favourite. cooks unreasonably hard

JJ

season 3 is better hands down. the masses are followers

Dani

I respectfully think you should delete the comment or edit the last thing out it’s kind of spoilery,

Jessica

I have a suggestion to not speak about later seasons and focus on the one the boys are watching!!!

Bambina

Nah Lola is right my guy, please don’t comment under every comment that dares to praise season 5,6,7 even. I haven’t read the books, as the boys, and I loved S6 more than S4, and I loved S5 and S7, even S8, besides some parts. Giving your 2 cents that GoT is bad after S4 is fine - once, twice even. But under most comments that have a different opinion than yours? It’s not fun

Sean Carroll

No spoilers are being said though so we are well entitled to say whatever we want to say about our like or dislike for later seasons

Jessica

YES🙏🏼 I’m gonna be here supporting all the seasons even 8 -plus minus maybe but still there’s good parts

Darren Pangan

I think Season 3 is way better - Red wedding and Dany getting unsullied - biggest heart break and biggest hype.

Sean Carroll

Exactly, people overhype season 6 when there are serious problems in that season. People only rate that season so highly because of those last two episodes. No one I talk to actually discusses anything else from that season.

Ana

Yeah I like season 2 better than 4. 4 is still goated though. Season 2 is my fav then season 4

Cam

Season 4 is so popular because 1. It’s the first season where you can see an obvious jump in the show’s budget and 2. It doesn’t have a slow / bad episode. I also think it’s people’s favorite after a rewatch when you realize everything that happens that season. Upon first watch, season 6 was by far my fave. As i rewatched the show, i had such an appreciation for season 4 and it became my favorite

Sean Carroll

You do realise that your logic is flawed. You say that we are affecting their expectations by telling them of the problems in later seasons and then you also say that later seasons are peak… do you not realise your contradiction? Game of thrones was a 10/10 show until season 4 and by the end became a 7/10 show so when half of your show is peak and half is average to bad then the show in itself is no longer peak. Peak tv shows are shows that are peak from start to finish. For example, breaking bad and attack on titan

Sean Carroll

Well that may be your experience but I know from watching these guys that they are critical thinkers so I don’t see them not putting forth frustrations when they come up with

Jessica

Yeah sure, but it’s more fun to read comments about the reaction to the episode they’re posting instead of the same comments every post about how bad the later seasons are

Sean Carroll

I do have a job as an accountant actually. It’s currently the weekend though so…. I got time Also these guys are grown men and are allowed to think for themselves, nothing I say should adjust their own thoughts, I’m simply a guy putting forth his own opinion and not afraid of the backlash from people like you who can’t handle negativity been thrown at your favourite show. I am not going to be silenced by you positivity merchants. I am entitled to say what I think as long as I don’t spoil and I will continue to do so

nymeria

season 5 and season 6 are literally the same it’s just a matter of preference and i prefer s6 and yall can argue with a mirror cos idc

T.Yaseen

Insane Episode holy...from the death of the Hound to Shae to Tywin..i knew i was cooking when i had Arya as my favourite character from early season 1,everything from her story up untill now has been Epic,insane season.

Leo

IN YOUR EYES, I don't give a damn about your opinion. So, stfu.

Meave

I think it should be Jaime telling tyrion that Tywin murdered Tysha to make him suffer that same way when he lost his wife. And Tyrion killed Tywin. It would fit better.

Sean Carroll

its definitely not the same. Think about the Kings Landing storyline without both Tywin, Tyrion and Varys. Does that sound like its the same, better or worse and that just one storyline, what about Arya and the hound not being together anymore?

nymeria

im comparing 5 and 6, how is anything you said relevant to those two seasons?

Mattchu

When’s lord of the rings coming😛

Mitch Krueger

SEASON 6 IS THE GOAT BY A MILE… THERE IS NO OTHER ANSWER. TIME WILL TELL!

nymeria

rip tywin and them dropping this ep on father's day was crazy work

Darrell Henry

The reason I like season 4 Joffrey dies Battle at the wall Stannis saving the wall Tyrion’s Trial Oberyn Martell Oberyn’s Death Tyrion killing Tywin Daenerys Taking Mereen Fight between Brienne and the Hound Bran making it to the three eyed raven Finding out that littlefinger started the war Littlefinger killing Lysa. There’s a lot of character growth and epic scenes.

Chad-gon Targaryen

From this point forward, the Gek’s shouldn’t interact with their comments on GOT videos. First watchers thought GOT seasons 5-8 was absolute peak TV, even better than seasons 1-4. Let the Gek’s have the same experience as the general audience.

chaosisaladdahh

Glad to see 4x10 qualified for a new adjective (?) COOKAGE i was hoping for 'what the cookery'

Sean Carroll

That is absolutely false, there was a general disliking for the last four seasons especially 8 when it was coming out. This is a disingenuous comment

Sean Carroll

Ok I thought you meant the same as season 4 in quality in reply to the other comments about the 5 and 6 dislike. My mistake

Felipe Padilla

Producers did Shae dirty in the show but thats because Tyrion in the show is not as "evil" as in the books

Sean Carroll

Strange how you can’t have a civilised discussion without telling me to shut up. Very childish

Marcusinmilw

30:51 I'm with you, McKay. I freaking HATE Janos Slynt. Burn him alive. Traitorous, hypocritical, bitch ass coward.

lola

I do have to disagree with the Gek’s take on Jon snow’s depth not being nuanced enough. Which to each their own! I respect their opinion! But to me, personally, he is arguably one of the most nuanced characters in the whole series. Top 3 in my opinion. At this point his father has been killed, his brother has been killed, which he couldn’t do anything about, his sisters and little brothers are missing, he grew up a bastard treated harshly by Catelyn, and he is now at the epicenter of a pivotal moment in history with the wildlings and white walkers. Yet he is making his own way in the world. The issue is that I think the only thing the show didn’t do justice was completely fleshing out some of Jon’s inner thoughts from the books up until this point. He has amazing dialogue and complexity in the books that was left out. That isn’t to say Jon in the show is less deep, you just don’t see it as blatantly. With that being said, Kit Harrington absolutely nailed Jon’s character. The subtleties in his expressions… yeah 😎

Jessica

Your reaction to the children being introduced is so funny 😂

bateman bookworm

tyrion in the show has always been very different than from the show, he was so evil in the books

Leo

They will see in this season and can't wait to see their reaction for THAT epic twist.

Caraxes🐐DT

Sean you know people are different right? Just because you don’t have season 7 ranked high don’t mean others won’t wth lmao

Meave

The show surpassed the book after ss5. but ss6 has some note from the author. Ss7and 8 are completely original

Caraxes🐐DT

Yes he being mad weird lmfao of people say they like season 5,6,7 he will argue them up and down about it like it changes anything..the boys will love those seasons as well

lola

So much crazy stuff is coming… I truly CANT wait

victoria t

Carter’s and cannon’s reactions are unmatched😂

Jessica

One of the best scenes in this show- Brienne and the hound. Love the sweet interaction between Arya and Brienne before the tension starts, and seriously Maisie is brilliant in this- just the way she looks at Brienne and then just the cold looks she gives the hound at the end, great actor!!

lola

shae in the book was much worse and she did not love Tyrion in the books. in the TV show, she did love Tyrion but she was very hurt by his “betrayal”. In the books, it was all a ploy.

Caraxes🐐DT

Because people don’t wanna hear you cry about the seasons when they praising it just for them to say something and you act like they shitting on your opinion when that’s literally what you doing lol

lola

@sean that is complete BS… if that were true THAT one episode in a later season wouldn’t be the highest rated episode for a TV series of all time and for GOT. Be so foreal.

Caraxes🐐DT

He also gave them pointers for how he would end it so stuff is still there from the books at least at the time but we don’t know if he changed things

lola

Please seek help and a job. Talking bad about later seasons is all you do. It’s clown behavior.

Meave

The book after A Storm of Swords(ss3-4) is perceived as weaker than previous

Jessica

“Ay that’s what I’m doing” sandor being a real father to Arya great storyline for these two, some of the best scenes!! Maisie and Rory’s dynamic was everything- and I love that we got to see another more vulnerable side of the hound (sandor) just applauding Rory for that performance this episode 👏🏼 So sad to see him go what a great character :(

Caraxes🐐DT

He a season 5,6,7 hater so no matter what he will talk about what seasons he think is good

Dana Sow

Great reaction boys. I think tyrion and tywin's relationship/storyline is one of the best father/son relationship depicted. Tywin who was such a great political mind & was great at reading people failed to see that out of all his children it was Tyrion who had his political talents and would've been the most capable of continuing the Lannisters legacy. Tywin's embarrassment and resentment of Tyrion led to his demise.

Lexi Browning

Season 2 will always be my favorite due to how well it establishes the world and plots within it. Season 4 is a close second though. Season 3 just had that surprising episode that hooked everyone

lola

@Sean If you had a small iota of reading comprehension, you’d see what I wrote in parenthesis, that the only reason I’m saying 5-6 are peak is because I’m trying to undue the damage that is being done by you clowns who can’t stop talking crap about the show. Seriously, GET A JOB! Also, it’s funny you say AOT was peak start to finish when A LOT of people hated the ending and could not stop dragging the author on Twitter. Literally trended world wide at the hate. So please go somewhere else with your dumb takes. It’s tiring.

Griffin

Swap 6 and 4 and it's my same ranking. S4 is better overall for me but there are undeiably a few of the best episodes s6. Writing problems notwithstanding from 5 on, it was an acceptable trade off for me -- until season 8: I don't even disagree with their overall story decisions, but their execution was awful unfortunately. But going in not expecting the Greatest Final Season of All Time (like all us watching live did) is really all one needs to at least enjoy it. All this "skip season 8" talk is dumb -- it has its worthwhile moments.

Caraxes🐐DT

I mean he gave the writers his ideas on how he would end the book and some major plot points so I wouldn’t say stopped listening to him completely on things

Nathan

Sad to see they didn't even react to the part at the end with Varys. He loaded Tyrion up on the ship and turned to go back to the castle, with the bells ringing signaling someone of importance has died. Varys looked and turned to the ship and hopped on with him and said "I ain't trying to be here anymore, deuces"

Griffin

Lola's right, bro. You don't need to reply to every comment in here. I think universally people agree the writing drops off when D&D are left to their own devices. The writing takes a back seat to other priorities. Plenty of people still enjoy later seasons more despite those problems. The fact you can't see how people can still enjoy it is a YOU problem. Some of the most iconic moments and highest rated episodes are still to come. Harping on about how shit it is from here just is not true.

Jessica

I cannot imagine a better way for Tywin to die, Tyrion absolutely deserved that kill. From the shae moment to the ending words “I’ve always been your son” so so powerful chiiiilllssss again this show is just something else

Griffin

Some of the highest rated episodes ever in television history are yet to come. Period. @Sean I just don't understand how you can keep saying this stuff when there are thousands of reviews and hundreds of reaction videos *from people watching live as it came out* that disagree with you.

Kim555

I feel like I'm in an alternative reality. The Shae death was different in my memory. It was just like what his father did with the girl he loved when he was younger, that was a whore. I remember Tyrion walking inside the castles, finding Shae being thrown around between knights and having to act like she's enjoying it for the coin but she was looking sad at Tyrion's face and then when they were finished they killed her and that's what got him really mad to murder his father. I don't know why I have such a clear memory of this if it's not the actual scene.

Chad-gon Targaryen

“Lord Tywin Lannister did not, in the end, shit gold.” - Tyrion XI ASOS

Griffin

@Sean Your logic is flawed. The numbers disagree with you in every metric. As an accountant, you should be able to handle this.

Robert W

Shae has no choice in the matter, the options are betray Tyrion or die. Shae either sleeps with Tywin or she dies. You can’t watch this show with a lens of good or evil.

JJ

wrong. this show is the best because of its dialogue. season 3 cooked more than 2 and 4 in that regard. each episode

Griffin

TBF though, before he was cut out of the loop, he did tell them where he intended to take a lot of storylines. He's said in interviews before that they kept many of his intentions in, even if the execution was rough. It's not *all* made up by D&D. But not everyone is masterful at weaving story like Martin

Robert W

Jack talking about Daenerys is so annoying, like she’s dumb for ending slavery? Who cares if a few people prefer the old way of doing things.

Marcusinmilw

ITA with Cannon. F Shae. I never liked her but after the way she betrayed Tyrion at his trial and THEN sleeping with Tywin…NOPE. She needed to die. I feel bad for Tyrion but he’s better off without that lying whore.

Jessica

As soon as stannis theme came you know- cannon called it 🥳👏🏼

Ant just watching

Who’s ready for house of the dragon #teamblack

lola

y’all just regurgitate the same falsities over and over. Season 5 is straight out of the last book and ends at the same part of the last book.

Kim555

Brig being confused by the children was like episode 1 when you guys were confused by the army of the dead and the white walkers. Look at you now

Jessica

Okay I’m gonna stop this spam but just have to say I’m listening to your talk at the end. Arya didn’t want to kill the hound at the end, they started to care for each other in a weird way so her leaving him was more complicated than her just being cold. It’s gonna be more clear I promise !!

lola

Not to segue into a different topic so abruptly but I’m so confused with people saying that the last 4 seasons have no relation to the source material when season 5 is quite literally straight from the source, books 4-5. They made some changes but it was still heavily influenced by the books and it’s major plot points. Season 6 takes us in some unknown waters. It’s a rough sketch of book 6 Winds of Winter. But GRRM has literally stated that the books will basically end the same way GOT did minus a few differences for minor characters and such. The journey to the end will be different in the books but the writers 1000% got the major plot points in the next seasons from the author himself. With that said, going on about how much you hate the later seasons, won’t change the fact that majority of people and critiques loved 5-6. Let the boys find out for themselves.

Delane Gill

Obviously it takes a lot to make everyone completely flip in just one season so you weren't gonna get people hating on season 5 or 6 the same way they did with 7 and 8 but that doesn't mean that they weren't without faults. 5 and 6 still had some terrible plotlines and decisions and don't hold up as as a whole on a rewatch imo. And whilst its true that season 5 had some stuff from the books, it had also caught up with the books in other parts and was the point where storylines started to come together and D&D had to start coming up with their own versions of events which are undeniably worse than the level we had been getting before and would probably get with the books

Shadow

Then there’s aemond and aegon. One definitely has full control over his dragon and the other his council. Oh wait…

meow

in the books there are theories that obrin martin is the one who killed taywan cs his body was described to be smelling of poison and the people who uses poisons that strong are the martins

lola

Or when the smoke demon baby came out 😭 so funny

Kim555

When brig called it a smoke bomb it sent me 💀

lola

Alright let me stop spamming 😭 people are pissing me off today! I’m gonna log off now 🚶‍♀️

nymeria

one last thing, from my first watch when the show was airing live and to now after rewatching this show once a year religiously, only one season as a whole has managed to consistently get a visceral reaction out of me where i have to physically take a jog every time the screen turns black and thats 6 so yes peak is still coming to ME! and ill die on that hill and defend it with my life 🥱

nymeria

call me sean cos ill be writing paragraphs to everyone in this comment section once they’re on that season

Shadow

Yea it had that man constipated and on the shitter all day😂

Mysterious Figure

Cannon, the only way you could understand Shae's actions is if you assume she was doing everything while being under threat to her own life. After being discovered to be Tyrion's lover, she could have been given an option by Tywin - either we execute you, or you will do exactly as we say, and while you do as we say, we will also pay you or something like that. So, after from her perspective, Tyrion betrayed her, while offering her NO explanation for his actions (he basically told her you're a whore and I dont care about you at all, so get lost), she gets told she will be executed for sleeping with a son of the Hand while he was married to Sansa, I think her choice was pretty obvious. Anyone would do the same. Expecting her to be idealistic and die for the one she loves... but the one she loves just told her that she's a whore, betrayed her, told her to get lost and he doesnt want to ever see her anymore... so all her ideas about love between them probably started to seem like his lies from that point. She doesn't know he did that to protect her. She ACTUALLY thinks he fell in love with Sansa and wanted to get rid of her, and with the way he communicated to her, without telling her straight up, and instead lying to her, I don't really expect her to know better. Was she supposed to read his mind? But either way, none of her actions are excusable, and are disgusting. The only way I could understand her doing it and still actually loving Tyrion before everything went sour, was if she was threatened to be killed by Tywin or Cersei after Tyrion told her to get lost.

lola

We OUTSIDE!!!! the defenders of season 6 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅 RAHHHH

lola

HELPPPPPPP NOT SEAN $/&:&@:@: IM CRYING

Ashley H.N

It's been an incredible season finale rewatching it with the 5 of you! Great reaction as always and cannot wait for next season🔥🤘

nymeria

they don’t get season 6 like we do and that’s okay but they’ll learn!

nymeria

i can’t even be annoyed at sean @‘ing everyone who will listen cos that’ll be me too when they get to 6

Jacob Goldsmith

s6 my fav and i like 7 as well

Dani

A guy called Sean will reach out to you in a bit.

Alex

this is the best episode of the show im so glad im not alone

Brittany (Ultraanimegirl4)

I'm with Brig on the scene with the children of the forest... Idk why but it just seems so jarring every time these high fantasy creatures are introduced and I can't even say why. Maybe its because they aren't really built up at all like the white walkers are?

lola

You’re so right 😭 I just know the person we’ll be fighting off is Sean tho

lola

@Dani YOU TOOK ME TF OUT IM ON THE FLOOR 😭

Leo

My fav top3 : 1)Jon 2) Tormund 3) Tyrion

Marcusinmilw

No. And quit acting as if my comment was super hyperbolic, because it wasn’t.

Meave

A reminder: ss7 has 7 eps, and ss8 has 6 eps

Leo

@lola, just leave him alone. I think he has some mental issues.

Griffin

@Dani Might as well retire now. This comment is peak. Bravo.

Nepenthe

The Hound and Arya's relationship is peak Game of Thrones for me. The Hound is such an amazing character because he's the prototypical victim of circumstance. Grew up in a horribly abusive house and was pledged to a horribly evil King, yet his actual good nature always struggles to fight to the surface (his care for Sansa and Arya, gentle treatment of that dying man by the road, etc). He's committed evil actions but they become very understandable given his background and the positions he was placed in (think Jamie's explanation of duty vs personal ethics). He also acts as a juxtaposition with the other characters who've been born to lavish lifestyles and are incredibly callous and cruel. I think this season makes a strong argument that people's nature outweigh their nuture. Can be raised in horribly hateful environments yet still have a good heart fighting towards the light.

Dorra

Shae my girl fr

Timmy Turner

Most people didn’t think s8 was better than any of the prior seasons, that’s just cap. There were literal petitions to rewrite it and everyone complained about it, and the last 3 episodes have abysmal IMDB scores. I agree the Geks should form their own opinions but no need to make up things.

GreetswithJudgement

Never really felt attached to any of the characters. Well written, I just don’t care about any of them. Yea, I’m in a weird spot on rewatch. The Hound is always the GOAT though. And Jack, a 9 rating isn’t bad for the show but it is bad for the season 😂 but I get it! When you venture out of GOT and watch more stuff there are better things out there. Not everything can be a 9.8 or more.

lola

You’re right… but also I wasn’t the one that named him. I’m just giggling 😭

The Emerald Duchess

No spoilers ahead here: The writers really wanted another season or two to wrap it all up as well. HOWEVER, the show runners, the money guys and the network (all who are the people who the writers and everyone else has to listen to) wanted to end faster to make peak money possible. So we lost our better ending to “the money man” the writers did what they could with the time they were given. You can’t make it all make sense when you’re given so many constructions like time, storylines, character arcs, meeting contractual obligations of screen time, location time limits for shooting…etc etc. most people have zero clue what it takes to make ONE EPISODE come together. I was about as satisfied as I was gonna get and I’m a critic

Whitney Davis

On multiple occasions in the show, Shae was given the chance to leave. She was offered bags of diamonds & gold to sail away to another life somewhere else. Where she could have a house, servants, and riches. But, what did she continuously choice to do? Stay & fight against arguably the most powerful people in the realm. After being told how ruthless and serious the situation was. Shae choose wrong & died horribly for it. Strangled by a man that loved her & by the gold that could have saved her life.

Griffin

@Sean Knowing exactly what mistake you are talking about on which episode you are talking about - because it's the same one all of your type harp on about - literally, it's not even a mistake. It is very clearly visually explained and does not require any deeper analysis than reading a flag. It is not the plothole you think it is and doesn't affect the story in any way even if it was.

bateman bookworm

yall should watch the histories and lore because it’s explains the story of the children and first men better, and their connection to the north. One of my biggest critiques of the show is not showing all of the fantastical elements more often and from the beginning, bc there is a lot of fantasy in this world. But they don’t show it enough so when it happens it’s seems out of place. Doesn’t help that no one in westeros believes in it so it seems insignificant

Branflakes

This episode is basically tied for my favorite but I still love watchers on the wall. But yeah it's crazy how much stuff happened in this finale. The hound is a real one!

Jessica

@Haley haha touch grass is so funny for some reason 😂

Sean Carroll

What a fantastic season that the GOAT Daenerys had. Let’s take a look back at her highlights 1. Throwing chains at slaves 2. Taking Meereen no diff 3. Sitting on a seat for 5 episodes talking to people 4. Letting Dario have sex with her 5. Kicking Jorah out 6. Putting her dragons in timeout What a fantastic character, god I can’t wait to see what she does next season

Timmy Turner

s1-4 of GoT is up there with the greats (Sopranos, Breaking Bad, the Wire). But as a whole GoT drops to maybe a B+ tier show, as the failings of the next seasons also retroactively ruin things (like character arcs or questions we all assumed would have satisfying answers).

Nasty

Do i actually see people defending the terrible writing of season 7 and 8? thoes two seasons have been hated for a long time since they aired lol. Butcherd characters, so much stuff that dosen't make any sense and terrible endings for most of the characters.

emma.bean

George wanted 10 seasons & 100 episodes yes, but a quote from his Agent: "Dan and Dave were tired, rightfully so," Haas said in Miller's book. "They were done, and wanted to move on, so they cut it short and then negotiations became, how many seasons can we stretch this out? Because of course HBO wanted more." Cant put HBO or their execs on chopping block for the earlier ending. They are really good about riding for their shows and giving showrunners creative freedom. Thats why they the goats.

emma.bean

Dang this is one take I don't think I have ever heard about this show in particular... Totally respect your experience but I am just bewildered by it haha very interesting!

The Emerald Duchess

That statement isn’t the case though it was HBO, but I can’t support that with the facts I have or my source would lose their job. Dan and Dave were tired? They were t even writing the whole series at that point. It sounds like a totally themed up statement to put out. We can’t believe everything they say because they are all under contracts. Each and every single one including GRRM. In fact his contracts got tougher because the studio said he talked too much. It’s sad.

GreetswithJudgement

I agree, the first 4 is up there with the GOATS but still slightly below in my opinion. After season 4, it went from one of my top shows to not even in my top 10. But yes I agree with you 100 percent. And to those that think any negative comments will affect the boys reactions going into it somehow, they’ve already heard the negativity long before they started watching the show. They know. And as always the Geks have been pretty damn good at being honest with their opinions and reactions. AOT season 4 was hated on for awhile and so was the ending and the boys rated it the final season the highest. They’ll be fine. The same can be said if you overhype something. High expectations can also be affecting, so praise it all you want or criticize it all you want. Same difference.

emma.bean

sheesh every time I rewatch I somehow forget how absolutely PACKED this season 4 finale is. 🤯 Great reaction as well!

Sean Carroll

I never called it a plot hole, it’s simply something that occurs that takes away from the moment, if a certain decision was made on screen rather than off screen than it would have been much better. I obviously can’t describe it until we get there. Regardless of the issue I still agree it’s one of the best eps in the show

emma.bean

Hmm interesting.. idk yeah I guess I can't know for sure. Just hard for me to put the blame on HBO because they so consistently produce top tier television and a lot of my favorites, which were not big money makers AT ALL but they let the showrunners finish them however they saw fit for as many seasons as they wanted.

Sean Carroll

Learn to live with it griffin because I will continue to put forth my issues with the show going forward despite all the flack I am sure to receive.

Sean Carroll

Hayley: in the last post people were literally crying about the lack of got posts and threatening to unsubscribe and calling the geks money grubbers etc. that is very different to me coming here and putting forth my opinion on how bad the show becomes overall

Sean Carroll

If you took the time to read every comment of mine you would see that I also agree that there are still some amazing things to come… however in the overall picture the show certainly becomes a mess from a writing point of view. If people like the show that is fine, I’m not trying to take that away from anyone, I am simply putting forth my opinion and prediction that the guys are also going to see the issues appear from 5 onwards. I am not concerned about anyone loving it from here on out but I will not be silenced just for having an opinion outside the popular

Raven Sub

The breaker of chains chaining her own children. Such a heartbreaking moment.

Sean Carroll

Exactly Delane, I agree with everything you said, the show certainly drops off from now on and that is simply undeniable. People get so upset with the fact that I say this, sure I might have been spamming it today but the frequency of the message doesn’t change the message

Raven Sub

This is definitely the case for book Shae, not so sure it fits show Shae.

Icchi

I will never understand how people think 5 & 6 are bad

Sean Carroll

Ok Lola, you are simply a person that is unable to accept criticism about your favourite show. Calling a shows seasons peak simply to reverse the narrative is flawed in its argument. You do realise the 5 guys are all grown men that can make up their minds. I am not a guy trying to change anyone’s mind, I am simply putting forth my opinion despite the flack I have received.

Sean Carroll

Griffin: if you are referring to my ratings in the earlier comment, that was purely my own opinion. I believe 1-4 are 10/10 and 5-8 is probably a 4or 5 out of 10, leading to me giving the show a 7/10 overall. I never said that my numbers were the official numbers

Sean Carroll

I have a job Lola, please read my other comment. Putting forth a negative opinion about something that goes against the grain is not grounds for seeking a psychologist. What would you say if all my negative comments were actually positive? I’m sure you’d be saying positive things about me. The only reason you say this is because you don’t like my opinion and can’t accept criticism

emma.bean

Jack calling my mans a brat has me ready to throw hands. 😤

Sean Carroll

Don’t forget season 8 hater. I don’t hate seasons 5 and 6 by the way, I simply acknowledge the overall decline in the writing. Seasons 7 and 8 I do hate

Sean Carroll

HELL YEAH SEASON 6 IS THE GOAT BABY WOOHOO That better Lola? Do you like me now

Sean Carroll

Classic Lola, trying to defend her argument against me by bringing up one singlular episode as a defence. The overall feel for the last 4 seasons were certainly more dislike then prior. I’m not saying the hate started straight away, I’m simply saying people were enjoying it less than the earlier seasons

Sean Carroll

Jon is certainly not as nuanced as other characters however that does not take away from his character. He is still a strong character and one of the few that gets better from here

Ana

In my opinion season 6 is not peak to me. There were a few amazing episodes. The season was good but not better than the first 4 seasons. Season 5 is a better season. I even like season 7 better than 6. Also this is my opinion idc if you think the opposite. That's great for you

Sean Carroll

I for one will not be silenced for having a different opinion to the positivity merchants

lola

I love how cannon defends our man’s tho 😎🫶

Sean Carroll

“Finally a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary” (tai lung, kung fu panda) I welcome the discussion about the future seasons and look forward to more civilised conversation about them. I will not hold back on all the issues I have and I welcome you and I to hash it out respectfully. Also Pavan: no I do not have mental issues. Having a different opinion to people doesn’t constitute mental issues. If you can’t defend your statements with some nuance than you will be smoked in the future comments. I welcome the challenge

Sean Carroll

Dani: I genuinely laughed out loud at that hahaha. Like I’ve said, if people want to love what’s to come that’s their prerogative. I am just not afraid to explain all my problems with what’s coming

Sean Carroll

They were certainly mentioned multiple times however yes it is a bit random

Alex

Why is it the goat season? Every episode is a straight banger. 1. First episode starts with Tywin melting Ned's sword and Ooathkeeper. 2. Joffreys death enough said 3. John's 1v1 at crasters keep 4. Tyrions court speech one of the best scenes in the entire show. (won an emmy for it) 5. We learn that Little Finger and Lysa started the entire Lannister and Stark war 6. Little finger and moon door 7. Prince Oberyn is goat the enire season and his fight with the Mountain 8. The Nights Watch battle is one of the best battle episodes of all time period and rip Ygritte. 9. The finale ummm Tyrion escapes Shae and Tywin death and Hound and Biriane fight and Hound death 10. The Hound and Arya this season were peak the best duo and they ate all the fucking chicken. Already goated season without Bran and Dannys storyline. seasons 1-4 are peak though.

Sean Carroll

For me the show goes from A+ to B-. It just doesn’t stack up anymore compared to aot and breaking bad in my books. Aot will always be my favourite show. Most of the frustration about season 4 is simply fans being crybabies having to wait for a long time for the show to end. Season 4 of aot is peak writing from both a story and character writing perspective

Sean Carroll

Thank you, this is what I’ve been saying. Season 6 is a poor/average season overall that can’t be saved by two incredible episodes. I sometimes toss up between 5 and 6 for which is worse because they both are so average

Caraxes🐐DT

It wasn’t hbo lol they literally wanted more and asked for more from D&D but they had a Star Wars project they would rather do…idk where you got this from

Sean Carroll

People literally say she is one of the best characters on tv and I simply don’t get it. She is easily the worst main character in this show alongside Bran who’s story is just so bad

Caraxes🐐DT

Season 5 is still apart of the book lol and even season 6,7 and 8 he gave them plot points to where he would go…Arya didn’t kill hound because she cared for him lol she didn’t want to kill him in the end and it just shows the bond they developed

Ana

@Sean I respect your opinion but you have commented it multiple times. So I already know where you stand. I get it

GreetswithJudgement

Sean, you and I are just vibing right now! But I will go further and say that AOT at its worst is still better than the GOATS at their best. I will leave that there. No apologies.

emma.bean

Sean I think everyone here knows how you feel about season 6 and the rest of the show at this point 😂 if I have to keep reading it over and over I might fling myself from the highest window in the Red Keep. You think season 5 & 6 are poor writing with only a few good moments and have huge mistakes and are the beginning of the steep decline of the show and it just gets worse and worse from here.. and quite a few of us will ride hard for season 6 regardless. Neither side can really get into it and give good arguments for our sides without spoiling, and neither side is going to have their mind changed right now, so lets just give it a rest and agree to disagree with each others opinions for now and then duke it out when we get there and can really get into the why of it all. In the meantime I'd rather hear your thoughts on literally anything else lol

Gnarlybudz

The Brianne vs Hound fight was epic! I loved Brianne’s victory celebration afterwards. “AH YEAH……AH YEAH!!”

emma.bean

rare moment of agreement between Sean and I... lol I've never been much of a fan of Dany. even on my first watch I just didn't care for her from the jump.. but hey, so many people lover her so I guess it all really is just subjective.

Seth Aasland

brienne is a BEAST

Uros Vesic

First 4 seasons of GoT are peak. 5th season is good, but everything goes downhill from there. This rewatch was amazing.

emma.bean

That choral version of the main theme at the end is stunning. give me chills every time.

GreetswithJudgement

My best friend loves her and I love The Hound. I hate her and he hates him. It really is subjective.

Chad-gon Targaryen

To me, the 5th season was the most impactful of the show. And arguably, one of the most impactful seasons of TV in modern history.

Icchi

Tyrion, Arya and Jon don’t have a single mid scene in the whole show… easily my favorite characters in television.

Shay Kumar

Interesting question about whether Prime Jaime could beat the Mountain. Remember when Jaime and Brienne are talking he says there are only 3 men in Westeros who could possibly beat him. I think he was referring to Ser Barristan, The Mountain, and The Hound. 👀🤔

Mitch

I’ll give it one thing, it’s the season that truly blew up the show to different levels of popularity and real mainstream status. But man I’d be lying if I said I’m excited to rewatch it again

Jessica

Probably my three favorite characters from the start

Paul Durbin

All he was saying was how she disrupted an entire society. The economy, the culture, the education system, the trade profits; everything that city was is now different. Jack was just pointing out how there's side effects. But yeah she's also dumb

2shotsofvodka

You afraid of a dead wh*re? reaction: 😶 😮 😮 😬 😮

Shadow

Clone wars is goated

Felipe Padilla

Yes, thats what I mean, her ending makes more sense in the books, even Shae's actress Sybel Kelil was a bit confused by her actions. There is an interview on youtube that I saw years ago where she talks about it

Brady

2013 Lebron, 2016 Curry, 2017 Westbrook, Season 4 GOT

Alex

Season 6 has the same levels of peak as the first four seasons. That’s why people are blinded and potentially put it as their top season. The problem with season 6 is the writting has taken further hits after season 5 and the moment to moment of season 6 is very weak compared to the first 4 seasons even season 5.

Shay Kumar

Lool Lexi yes for real. Imagine telling someone their own opinion is wrong. That's not how that works 😅

Shay Kumar

I feel like Jon and Dany have inverted growth arcs... Jon's starts off slow and ramps up and Dany's starts off fast and really slows down.

Paul Durbin

I completely agree - they shouldn't have their opinions/reactions/perceptions of the show tainted by what other people think. At the same time - I started watching this show in 2011 because i loved the books, love high fantasy, good world building, fleshed out characters, insane plot lines. Just being honest - I don't really respect anyone's opinion who just joined in on the craze when it was popular. Season 8 is objectively shit writing. The more they strayed from GRRM, the worse it got, and the more lost D&D were. Call me pretentious all you want.

lola

FROM THE JUMP! I think I’m also one of the few who had Jon in their top 3 from the first season, first episode… truly my man 🥹

Alex

No guys seasons 5+6 are still adapted from books four and five plus new material. Seasons 7+8 are only new material.

Bri-Ana Monique

I think season 5 is the best, but seeing everyone saying season 6 is better is crazy. So I’m about to go rewatch season 6 to reevaluate my decision😂

sankro

I agree, those three are most likely who he referred to. Jaime specialises in longswords which means who wouldn't really be able to do much against the Mountain in a 1v1 fight or he would at least struggle against him. The only ones I can think of that could easily take down the mountain would be prime Bobby B with his warhammer or a theoretical Oberyn that doesn't have other motives during the fight.

Kim555

Is there a cinema gek upload today? 👀

emma.bean

Lola SAME tho... from the very first time I watched, from episode 1 of season 1, I have felt JON > ROBB, which seems like an unpopular opinion but i felt that way from day one and I stand firmly by it lol

mk

bro who are you even arguing with? xD AGAIN: I also enjoy the show - all seasons - it's still interesting what things changed when and (potentially) why when compared to the book

briboeee

I didn’t like Shae either but she didn’t deserve to go out like that.

Timmy Turner

Seasons 5 and 6 only take about 15% of books 4 and 5 and make major changes even to those parts.

Cannon Andrus

Again, I understand her actions. I just don’t think anyone should ever be able to defend her

Alex

season 5 and 6 take more than a whole 15 percent. Yes they have to change a lot because a lot of sceneries played out differently in the first 4 seasons and they have to prep for tfuture seasons that have no books. Its not just simply said they adapted x amount so they are bad.

Alex

Its not crazy to believe season 6 is better than 5 its crazy to believe 5 is better than 1-4.

Bri-Ana Monique

No because season 5 is more focused on my favorite character so for me, no it’s not crazy at all Mr Alex 😂

Bri-Ana Monique

& I meant it’s just crazy because I don’t even remember season 6 so I feel like I’m missing something 😂

Dorra

City Girls UP 🤟

creeper doodle

He told them three major things that happen. Only one of which is actually in the final season. He didn't tell them the end for basically all, but one of the characters. Here is what he says, and has continued to say. "Another question that I get a lot, especially since the end of Game of Thrones on HBO, is whether A Song of Ice and Fire, will end the same way." He added: "An architect would be able to give a short, concise, simple answer to that, but I am much more of a gardener. My stories grow and evolve and change as I write them." "I generally know where I am going, sure... the final destinations, the big set pieces, they have been in my head for years... for decades, in the case of A Song of Ice and Fire. "There are lots of devils in the details, though, and sometimes the ground changes under my feet as the words pour forth." "What I have noticed more and more of late, however, is my gardening is taking me further and further away from the television series." "Yes, some of the things you saw on HBO in Game of Thrones you will also see in The Winds of Winter (though maybe not in quite the same ways) but much of the rest will be quite different."

Wiifty

@lola No it is not straight out of the last book at all. There are so many plot lines that are not in the season at all and so many characters ruined. Not to mention how much the dialogue falls off.

Euphemia Isobel

Barristan, The Mountain and Loras Tyrell (Despite the show making him a bit of a joke)

Faris Alamin

Facts. I could maybe argue a little about Jon, but there is never a moment when I am watching an Arya/Tyrion scene where I am wishing for something else. Arya is my goat though. Arya travelling with the Hound was my favourite storyline in the show and I like to believe they're the reason that everybody loves S4 as much as I do.

Mysterious Figure

I think people love what her character could have been. They probably love that idea in their head and mix it up with what we actually got. If her character had more time to breathe and if it had a few seasons for the development of what transpired between the current events and the ending up to season 8 where her "development" took a rather rushed turn, I believe most people wouldn't be as disappointed. I think she was supposed to be a highly idealistic character with good intentions whose righteousness impacted her character in a big way. It is an interesting concept and would have been fun to see played out on screen if we had been lucky enough to have someone other than the writers that we ended up getting. Sadly we got fckd.

Icchi

Season 6 is what culminates all the greatest plot points from the first 5 seasons into one… Ayra’s training arc is my favorite arc in the show but season 6 is where we get the satisfying payoff, and all the great reunions… 4, 5, and 6 are all close to me tho.

lola

@Sean yes!! That’s how i like it! keep it up! If you can keep your real opinions to yourself for the next…. Ummmm idk… 4 seasons, you might not make it in my sh*t list 🫶🩷

Faris Alamin

I agree with everything you said except I don't think the nature of fictional characters make a strong argument for anything in real life.

lola

@Wiifty yes it is… the latter half of book 4 and then dance with dragons is 5. You clearly have not read the series. Please stop spreading misinformation. Additionally, GRRM said the books will end almost the same way as the show but the journey will be different. The Wei tree es knew of his biggest plot lines for the next several seasons.

Brett

how about just keeping future episodes/season opinions to yourself. lol i know that impossible for most people in this comment section but still, grow up lol

Sean Carroll

I have to disagree about all 3 not having mid scenes because they all certainly do

Sean Carroll

Please delete or adjust your comment because you are hinting at things that happen later down the line for dany

Faris Alamin

Huh? Wasn't it D&D themselves who said HBO wanted more? Why would they lie, you can't seriously believe HBO made them lie in an interview? The quote is literally from David: "HBO would have been happy for the show to keep going, to have more episodes in the final season. We always believed it was about 73 hours, and it will be roughly that. As much as they wanted more, they understood that this is where the story ends." Also, why in the world would HBO try and end their cash cow early? They literally announced about 10 more spinoffs around that time too. There's literally nothing to point to the fact that HBO wanted it to end. I feel like I would consider it if they had any reason to end it, but I just don't see it.

Scinaps

How has no one called me out on using the words of House Harris of Oakland.

Sean Carroll

Oh no I wouldn’t want to end up on some random person who I’m never gonna meets shit list

Faris Alamin

> Never really felt attached to any of the characters. Well written, I just don’t care about any of them. I have had this with shows and I don't know if it's just me or if the show just caught me at a bad time. For me it's MHA, I just don't care about a single person in that show.

lola

@Bri-Ana okay now I know who your fav character is 🤭 you get a pass for that!! I do recommend you watch season 6… so much comes together, full epicness!

The Emerald Duchess

Or did they? 🤔 Hollywood is a pretty awful place more often than not, unfortunately. But some good ones still remain.

Scinaps

Do we get more treaaaatooos today? Popper wants mooooreeee treatoes

lola

Literally! Season 5 is half of book 4 and all of book 5… season 6 is basically a rough draft of the 6th book that is next in the series to come out. All major plot points were given to the writers by GRRM himself and he said that the books would end the same way the show did but the journey would be different.

Ana

After Shae was found in Tywin's bed there's no more defending her

Not today

Strongly disagree most excting episodes. 5,4,6,7,8,3,1,2 Seasons fave to least

Joe Mama

Just did another re-read and season 5 and 6 change so much from AFFC and ADWD what are you on?

Fatipapi

Im soooo ready for season 5!! Lets gooooo

lola

@Sean You trying to convince yourself that my opinion of you doesn’t matter when you’re the one that called me out on a random comment is pretty funny 😘🫶

Niffol

Season 3 and 4 are both from the same books, so the middle and back half of the book is wild. so if you split it between S3 and S4, S4 gets more of the juice. 3 has alot of setup to the events in 4

Fatipapi

Also, fuck shae. All my homies hate shae

Alex

Cant put a number on it and had to change for obvious reasons apparently not to you.

Joe Mama

Ngl I’ll probably get hate for this (seeing a lot of people say season 5 is the best?) but the end of this finale of this kinda ruined the course of the show. The omission of the Tysha confession from the books completely changes Tyrion’s character and whole arc. Won’t go too much into it because of spoilers. I get why they didn’t do it, because Peter Dinklage made Tyrion THAT much more likable than in the books (and he’s amazing in the books obv). But for me this episode the real beginning of the end of peak GoT. Idk if you boys like reading lol but the books are so goddamn good. They’re worth reading not just for the “canon” of the story but just all the extra characterization and world building. Sorry for the wall of text lol

Ana

Facts. Hated they omitted that part. They tried to make Tyrion too much of a hero in the show.

lola

@Joe A lot changes and a lot stays the same… that’s how shows work! They’re not going to copy the books verbatim because some things don’t adapt as well into TV shows.

Ana

Shae defenders once Shae was found in Tywin's bed she deserved everything she got. She was truly just a whore after that

Legendarygamer

Jack calls everyone stupid for making human mistakes

Joe Mama

I feel like people who repeat this have even read the books lol. Jeyne Poole, Griff and Young Griff, Victarion, Dorne conspiracy, etc would like a word with you since they aren’t ever in the show and are all majorly important in the books

Jack

Brigg you can go around the wall by boat. The east side actually has a manned nights watch castle by the sea called “Eastwatch by the Sea”. They look after that side and Stannis went through Eastwatch to get to where he is with Jon and the wildlings. The west side of the wall, the ocean is WAY more perilous and dangerous but it’s possible to go by boat. That’s how Osha got south of the wall, she took a boat around. It’s just super risky, chance of death is high.

lola

Im trying to figure out how you think a TV show will have enough budget to add 100+ side characters including the ones already in the show. Not everything can be adapted and not everything can be included. That is the downfall of any show/movie that is adapted from a book. Is this your first rodeo or…?

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Well yes, that was her profession, but Tywin threatened her. He called for her to be brought to him before the wedding. Pretty sure he then threatened to hang her like he promised or side with him to send Tyrion away once he got that chance, and be used like the whore she is (by him and whoever) to put her back in her place. Unless the show runners actually meant to imply she went to Tywin herself instead and plotted to betray Tyrion and be Tywins whore? Not sure why they'd have him say a bunch of times he'd hang the next whore he sees Tyrion with, show Cersei as a threat to her multiple times, and ask for Shae to be brought to him.

Joe Mama

Not having Jon Con and fAegon in the show was criminal imo. Them continuing Tyrion’s story like the books might have fixed the ending even.

Wiifty

@lola The winds of winter isn’t even released. “The wei tree es” “next several seasons” what you smoking on? You are the one spreading misinfo. It is clear you have never touched the books

Ana

We never saw none of these threats. Shae looked very cosy in Tywin's bed. Didn't look afraid at all. Well Tywin is a hypocrite that's why Shae was there. We can not defend Shae when we never saw her be threatened. If Bronn said Shae was on the boat how did she get back..? All of these things show she was most likely not threatened. She lied on Tyrion and slept with Tywin because she wanted to. We have to go off what is shown. And what we see is Shae looking at peace in Tywin's bed calling for her Lion

Not today

He may be on spectrum. my adult son is and this is how he acts.Once he is fixated on something,everyone else better just clear thier path.

Ana

Yup this is the decline of Tyrion's character.

A_Daddy Daichi

@Sean When is enough going to be enough. Like damn. We already know your stance going forward but we really have to hear it damn near every episode?

Joe Mama

And we know from the books Tywin built a tunnel from the Chamber of the Hand to the brothels. Tywin hated Tyrion so much because he was just the same as him. Tywin writ small.

Joel

One more good season 😥

Ana

@Joe mama facts. Tyrion was Tywin. He was just born "wrong"

A_Daddy Daichi

I recall enjoying S6 so I’m excited for that!!

Not today

Everyone knows your opinion at this point sean. .And I do mean everybody. so now that we all know how bad the later seasons suck you can find relief in knowing you have done a supurb job at keeping us all informed. Take your much deserved rest now darlin.

Joe Mama

The Wire did it just fine and that’s a critically acclaimed show. Sorry I forgot D&D wanted to make the show for “mothers and NFL players” and not continue the story they set out to make.

Billie

Since most of these comments are debating the following seasons can we just agree this episode was so epic!!!!!!

Fatipapi

Tyrion a brat?? Are we watching the same show Jack?

Billie

Jaime Lannister, one of the most frustrating and interesting characters 😭 how did he go from lipsing his sister to freeing his brother (that hug 🥹) and teaming up with varys the 🐐!?!?!!!!

Joe Mama

Worked fine for agot-acoc for seasons 1-4 for the most part minus the Tysha confession w Jaime and Tyrion. Then they cut George out. It is what it is. You can like the latter half of the show but to say it’s the same as the books similarly to seasons 1-4 is just inaccurate.

Billie

Arya isn’t even in my top 5 favourite characters but it’s such a whirlwind of emotions following her journey 😭💔 and her upcoming arc is so cool! valar morghulis pookie 💕

Billie

I get what carter means tbh about ned and Robb. They made such bad decisions ( esp robb) but seeing how corrupted the whole world is, it makes you appreciate the ‘honourable’ characters even more

Thomas Strunk

i don't want to be a downer, but notice a solid -2 after Charles Dances/Tywins aura being taken. man was just that good

Billie

How does him wanting his dad’s approval ( like any child) make him a brat? 💀 it’s about time he got rid of that skeleton ( tywin cool ‘aura’ bla bla bla but he was a horrible person lol)

Ana

@Bri-Ana. I agree season 5 is better than season 6

Ana

@Billie Tyrion has shown a lot of brat tendencies. He is a Lannister all of them are brats. I don't want to spoil so I can't say much.

Fatipapi

@Ana hard disagree. Cersei & Jaime mightve been treated ‘harshly’, but that was because he expected a lot from them. Tyrion being treated harshly is purely for a reason he cannot ever change about himself. He was always belittled (pun not intended) and hated and wanted dead by his own family.. thats way more severe than his siblings

A_Daddy Daichi

I truly should do a rewatch of 5&6 (I just remember enjoying them but I’m forgetting a lot) but I want to watch as they upload

Ana

@Fatipapi I agree Tyrion was treated super wrong. But he still behaves like brat sometimes due to his upbringing. I haven't finished the reaction so I assumed it had something to do with Tywin and Tyrion on Jack calling him a brat

Alex

No one said it was the same as 1-4 adaptation wise. You’re just putting words in people’s mouths. Books 4-5 made it difficult to adapt because of how they are split and the deeper you go the further you get from the source there is no escaping that.

Zah

Jack is fried lol

Arctic_stark

I'll disagree. Keep in mind, this is what Jaime thinks and not what is realistic. That line is just inserted straight from the books from an internal monologue that Jaime has, and there are better fighters in the books that are omitted from the show. For instance Loras has a brother who is supposedly even better with a sword than Loras. The Cleganes are more brute force than technique/skill and an elite swordsman like Jaime can probably dog walk them like Oberyn did. If I remember correctly, Jaime think the Cleganes have a chance against him, but he would win. And he considers Sandor a bigger threat than the mountain. His version of a great swordsman is Ser Barristan and Ser Arthur Dayne, who he describes as artists. I think the three are: Barristan Selmy, Loras Tyrell (Garlan if it's the books) and Oberyn.

A_Daddy Daichi

“I have always been your son” 😮‍💨

Anthony Castillo

Cannon, I appreciate how much you pay attention to the music 🫡

Ana

I definitely agree for Jon and Arya but Tyrion.....

Joe Mama

The split had nothing to do with it? Both books happen at the same time and were both released well before season 5. They chose to change/cut so much when the source material was right there. And quite literally people are saying seasons 5&6 and straight from the books in this thread.

A_Daddy Daichi

I wouldn’t say a 9 is a bad rating lol

leah

mckay dont call your younger self stupid... season six is PEAK

Sean Carroll

She was in my top 5 at this point but now I’m not sure if she’s in my top 10

Jack

Tyrion killed Shae because she had the knife and was trying to kill him. He had already gone through a lot as an innocent man whose family knows he is innocent and tried to have him killed, and he was already very upset at Shae for the trial. And then her fucking his father gave him plenty of motivation to want to harm her. But her trying to kill him? That’s what made it happen. He even looks at the knife in surprise and disgust when he first scuffles with her and ends up on top and first sees the knife.

Alex

U don’t understand when little changes were made in early seasons people said it’s great and close to the books but those little changes had ripples effects further down the line that made significant changes later. These big changes were felt in later seasons and blamed for it. Those books are also not as well received as the first 3.

Zah

George R.R. is still involved in 5 and 6 but season 7 while it is still good he is not involved, we wont talk about season 8 past episode 2 lol

A_Daddy Daichi

My top 5 characters (kind of in order) 1. Tyrion 2. Arya 3. Jon 4. Sansa 5. Varys/Ser Davos

Jack

Hey Brig and McKay, I know you guys are IMDB guys. If the others are IMDB guys then this is definitely for you. I also am an IMDB guy and I watched this show live from the very beginning. This show started off immediately over 9 rating after season one (9.2 if I remember correctly) and it claimed as the seasons progressed. It was a 9.5 after season 3. Breaking Bad was 9.5 rating and airing around the same time so they were battling it out for the best IMDB show rating. By the end of season 5 it finally made it to 9.6. It held onto 9.6 up until season 8. By the end of season 8, fans were so upset that the rating had fallen to 9.2. So Game of thrones truly is a 9.6 IMDB rated show.

Ana

Yes this is honestly the best finale of the show. So much happened. So many great characters gone. That Brienne and Hound fight is my favorite in the show. Because I love both characters and it was hard but epic fight. Poor Jojen. That one hurt. Goodbye to the Goat Tywin. Well that's the end to my fav duo Arya and the Hound. I love them both so much. Finally my fav character Arya got a dub and starts her journey. I love Varys he heard those bells and said welp imma just head out too 😂😂 Varys is in my top 10 of fav characters. I'm gonna say I just defended Shae because that was the episode we were on. I waited til you guys got to this episode to speak truly about Shae. Because it's your first watch. So I try to keep my comments like I am also a first time watcher. Or I keep my comments for the episodes we saw. Also Lore videos please. Y'all will love them. Great reaction and great episode.

Jack

I don’t defend Shae at all. But her POV is that she’s doing what she’s got to do to survive. The big unknown is that we don't know if she got caught or if she came back out of petty revenge. If she was caught then it’s understandable but if she came back then frick her.

Ana

Now I'm hoping for an early drop of HoTD. I never watch live. I always watch later so it can be closer to y'all's drop. This episode is gonna be epic 😩

Ana

My top characters are Arya Robb, Theon Hound Varys Davos Mesandei Jaqen

safaricat

FINALLY THE SHAE REVEAL!!! FUCK HERRRRRRR!!! she didn't beg, she didn't plead, she didn't try to explain cause she knew the fucking jig was UP!!! no more of her bad acting, pretending to love him he knows, we all know, she's finally gone along with Tywinn. This is a lot of people's favorite seasons because everything we've known as normal suddenly is flipped around. This season leaves off with people marching on completely different roads than before. From Dany to Jon everyone is finding a new normal for them. They've all had major character development this season. I think there are a lot of layers as to why Arya didn't finish him off. Just like there are many layers to their relationship. I don't necessarily think she wanted him to suffer more so than she didn't think it was worth killing him for. He's not necessarily a good person but he did get mortally wounded defending her, he only was protecting her to feed his pocket but at this point there was no one to pay him anyway, he's a killer but so is she which i think she understands more now that it's to survive. The respect, trust, understanding, and care they have for each other is muddled.

Ana

@Alex I just feel like season 6 had a lot of dry moments. I barely remember season 6 besides the big stuff and I just watched it a few months ago. Season 4 clears season 6 though so I really don't understand people saying 6 is better than 4. Season 4 finale clears the whole of season 6

Ana

@A true so many characters. The ones I put are my favorites but I have a few honorary characters

leah

totally with carter!! this episode is PEAKKKK!! definitely top 2 in the entire show ( it has to be number 2 tho… there’s more peak to come i’ll just say that ;) )

leah

everyone else doing top 5 characters so here’s mine 1. tyrion 2. arya 3. jon 4. daenerys 5. robb (my beloved)

Nebula Core

Carter turning into a dad scolding his kids "no, stop this, this is horrible" cracked me up! lol

Kite

is Return of the King coming today? 😔

Jaqen H'ghar

I was waiiiiiiittting for the Shae scene LOL. I knew it was going to piss off Cannon so much, and understandably so. Great scene.

Meave

In the book, Tywin referred Tysha as a whore not share

Brig Andrus

Another one on my list gone! Goodbye Shae

Jaqen H'ghar

ALSO, VALAR MORGHULIS.

Sean Carroll

Well no technically you can’t say it’s a 9.6 rated show when the final seasons were as bad as they were. The final rating is the true reflection of the overall fan opinion. It may have been 9.6 at its peak but it’s not a 9.6 overall

Mysterious Figure

I've adjusted my comment about Dany's character down the line, so it's a bit more vague, even tho I didn't contain any actual spoilers before. Better be on the safe side.

Paul Durbin

I started hating her when she was an entitled child in season 2 haha

Timmy Turner

I don’t think you can call it a 9.6 show if the final rating is 9.2 lol

leah

entitled child is crazy when she has the most claim to the throne 💀😭

angerina

NO BC HOW DID HE HEAR STANNIS'S THEME

Ana

I'm not understanding the Dany hate. She's not my fav but she is a good character

Zess

Ive never seen the wire, but is that an accurate comparison to make? A giant fantasy world that has to be bigger than a crime drama set in Baltimore? Don't take that as a negative to the story at all or anything, just wondering if the Wire is actually that big with its world and characters?

jay

forgot how good this season finale was!!!!!!!

lola

@Wiifty i meant “A dance with dragons”… I was thinking of winds of winter when I was talking to someone else about season 6 being a draft of the 6th book earlier and wrote it here without thinking. I’ve read the books. Not everything is adapted into the series nor does it need to be because not everything can be accurately translated into a show but the source material is there.

Mysterious Figure

Not to defend Shae because she is bottom feeder trash, but you guys are aware she didnt actually kill anyone? I see so many people here applauding her death for basically falsely testifying in court? Are we killing people for that now? She actually wasnt a completely horrible person. She stood up for Sansa, showed compassion to her and even put herself in harms way when she didnt have to. She had some redeeming qualities as a human being. Killing her for being an opportunist in a world of Thrones seems weird, because literally everyone in that world is looking to get up on the ladder. I think she is a victim of her stupidity, vengefulness and largely horrible circumstance. The fact that she ended up in Tywin's bed in the end could be her moving on and taking the opportunity after she got burned by all of them (from her own perspective), and that is IF Tywin coerced her into testifying by threatening her life. So after she testified, maybe Tywin was like... I will find another use for you... and offered her a way out of her misery. Remember, she is a BOTTOM FEEDER, the lowest social level human being. Whores dont have much agency in this world. What do you expect? She still doesnt deserve to be killed for lying in court, at least not according to our own morality. I wonder if people here think Tyrion killed her in "self defence" and would be funny to see anyone argue that he did, since he is the one that basically showed up to her bed in the middle of the night and jumped on top of her. So how do you justify our boy Tyrion basically being a murderer? Not even mentioning him killing Tywin right after. I just find it strange how people willingly forgo their morality when they are shown mostly the perspective of the "main characters" for which it is easy to have sympathy for since we see their side of things. I think the whole romance/plot between Shae and Tyrion is so badly done in the show compared to the book since it doesnt really give much of her perspective or side of things so a lot of the questions on her side remain unanswered, so it's easier to hate her, which I think is just lazy show writing. Basically force feeding the audience the "right" answer about who is in the right, when I think both Shae and Tyrion are responsible for what happened to them. Blaming it completely on her is not holding Tyrion accountable for his own shit. If he straight up didnt lie to her face and made her think their whole relationship was a lie, possibly none of this would have ever happened. From her perspective, he used her and then threw her away like a piece of garbage while lying to her the whole time. If she was smart she would have left when Varys gave her that pouch of money.

Jacob Goldsmith

falsely accusing someone on a trial where the punishment is death wihtout a doubt such as killing a king is basically sentencing that person to die.

Scinaps

What are the chances of HOTD ep4 dropping tonight?

Thomas Strunk

One more season of books my friends. This is the downfall, but recognize one more season 👍 How is brigg raitng next seasons, idk if he's seen them or spoiled lol. either way, 8, 9, 7, 7, the final four seasons. no diff.

leah

and who gives a fuck about him? 😭🙏

Caraxes🐐DT

I mean you know the punishment was death right? His death partly woulda been on her hands for sure

Thomas Strunk

hounds death was honestly shocking on rewatch. my man deserved better

Dani

Hotd was crazy tonight!

Ana

Omg I knew it was coming and I still wasn't ready

VERTICILE

Season 6 finale is the best episode in the entire show in my opinion

CHIEF

I barely noticed uploads were even slow and I go back to the last GoT reaction and see people tearing each other apart. You people seriously need jobs, Jesus Christ

Leo

Whom he called brat. can you please tell me?

GreetswithJudgement

Yes especially MHA, but I have this issue with many shows and movies and books and everything lol. Real life too 😂

MEW1023

GOT fans getting all upset from a 4 day wait between uploads is pathetic lmao. Go outside and touch some grass instead of demanding they entertain you like a zoo animal. So WEIRD

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Tywin told Tyrion not to bring that whore to court. Tyrion did and used Varys, Pod, and Bronn to take her back and forth to his chamber. Set her up as Sansas handmaid -- all to cover that she was there. Cersei thought she discovered that Roz was Tyrions lover because Tyrion gave Roz a lion necklace while in Winterfell. Cersei was a direct threat to finding out and beating Shae or worse. Cersei interrogated her during Blackwater but was interrupted by Lancel. Shae was spotted by Cersei's handmaid who told Cersei, who then told Tywin during Joffrey's wedding rehearsal dinner. Tywin replies just before the dinner begins "have her brought to the Tower of the Hand". Tywin said at least 3x to Tyrion how disappointed he was he married a whore and slept with them and brought them around, and that he would hang the next one he found in his bed. That is a threat. Many. That Tyrion kept mentioning to Shae and she didn't listen. We did not see what happened once she was brought to Tywins chamber but from all that actual evidence in the show, one can actually assume he threatened her life since he doesn't make idle threats. Shae, having just been scorned by Tyrions lie about not loving her anymore, was more willing to go along to spare her life. I have no idea why the writers chose not to make any of this more apparent but it definitely wasn't absolutely clear that she simply decided to team up with Tywin to betray Tyrion mostly based on the fact that she was in danger a lot and Tywin requested to see her and he had already threatened her life. She should not have betrsyed him, but she did it out of duress. Who else in kings landing has done anything not out of duress??? The scenes were just poorly written imo.

emma.bean

Pavan, in the outro he was saying Jon is a brat in the beginning of season 1 😂

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Giving false testimony to convict an innocent person of a capital crime is tantamount to killing that person.

Supreme Leader

Seems like the audience convinced them the next couple seasons are going to be bad. This shows audience is terrible lol

llB0JANGLESll

The rest of the show cooks. Idgaf what people say. Weakest seasons are 5 and 8 but they literally have 9.9 episodes sprinkled in them. Iconic moments in bound.

Sam

Lmfao the comments are hilarious. There’s one dude who has commented like 8 times about how season 6 ackshually sucks. People have no chill

Leo

Seriously? I think he is the first person on the planet to call jon a brat. How can anyone even think like that about jon.

DC

1. Tyrion 2. Jon (could be swapped with tyrion) 3. Arya 4. Jaime 5. Varys

leah

just based on season 4 ending or for the whole show?? either way, goated picks. varys and jamie would both be in my top 10

DC

1. Tyrion 2. Jon 3. Arya 4. Jaime 5. Varys 6. Hound 7. Robb 8. Davos 9. Jorah 10. Brianne

DC

5 isn’t bad a little slow tho, 6 is great peak got, 7 and 8 are a train wreck (8 way more than 7)

DC

5 is great i just felt it was a little slow, 6 is peak GOT. Not gonna talk about 7 and 8

Josh

Season's 5 and 6 have moments and episodes that rival or even exceed the top moments so far, the seasons just aren't as tightly written, and you'll dip into those low 8 episodes more frequently You guys will most likely still love the next two seasons at the very least, like I do. Especially season 6, it has some bangers But IMO season 8 is almost certainly going to be a miss, and a disappointment. Especially with people who are critically minded like Carter The production quality continues to get better throughout the series as its popularity and budget increases though.

Sean Carroll

They are all grown men with the ability to think for themselves. Blaming people for your own mindset is pathetically childish

Sean Carroll

6 is not peak, it is a noticeable drop off from first 4. Some fantastic episodes don’t save an overall average season

Sean Carroll

Because people gas up season 6 literally because of the two last episodes which are admittedly the best in the show. The rest of the season however is a complete mess writing wise but people aren’t ready for that conversation

Sean Carroll

I literally still see some of the same stuff that I would have removed from the comment

Sean Carroll

It’s called sarcasm, at this point I’m just doing it for shits and giggles

Smokey

I suggest you stop reading comments for the remainder of the series. people will sway your opinions, instead just go in blind and draw your own conclusions. many fans love the later seasons and some of the highest rated eps of the whole series are yet to come but people will still talk down on the show because they nitpick. just my opinion though, I'll be watching regardless!

Sean Carroll

I’ve only commented it this season a few times. From now on though I’m going to point out all the issues going forward

Sean Carroll

Brett: they are already aware of the overall disliking of the coming seasons. I have not spoiled anything, I have just made a comment

Timmy Turner

Yeah I feel S8 is really hard to like unless you turn your brain off and just admire the good CGI. Even the cast members brought up obvious flaws with the writing.

Timmy Turner

@Sean Those are reasonable ratings. Minor spoilers incoming, but people hype up s6 because of one major episode, but it’s just a “rule of cool” superficial episode that breaks down if you think about it critically. Also s6 marks the drop off of GoT dialogue to overused cock jokes. There are some cool moments in isolation but a shame they don’t really go anywhere. Anyway anyone new watching should form their own opinion.

Timmy Turner

My top 5 characters are 1. Shae 2. Cersei 3. Walder Frey 4. Joffrey 5. Ramsay

Timmy Turner

He wasn’t involved in a major way after s4. He said in interviews he was kept out of the production loop and stopped writing episodes (he wrote 1 per seasons for 4 seasons).

Timmy Turner

Not really a spoiler but I have to say I feel the show does Stannis dirty. They take away all his cool lines that add to his character. “Lord Seaworth is a man of humble birth, but he reminded me of my duty, when all I could think of was my rights. I had the cart before the horse, Davos said. I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne." Stannis is the MANNIS

Sean Carroll

They are grown men with minds of their own, if your own mental fortitude is susceptible to other people’s opinion than that is not anyone’s problem but yours

KIMI

She lied in a court of law in a trial where the punishment was death lol you don't need to jump through hoops to add nuance. She just sucks

KIMI

Shae sucks lol

Billie

I was also gonna say she’s not even in my top 10 by the end but didn’t wanna bring a frenzy of people. Spoilers but …. yeah she just went down for me

Dani G

3, 4, and 6 are the best IMO.

Dani G

8? What are you talking about? There are only 7 seasons. Right? Right?!

Ana

@Joe and Billie yes I love Theon so much

Audreyldo

S6 & 7 💕

Dani G

Man, when I first saw that fight I was the same as Carter. I love them BOTH and I was like..damn, I can’t root for either to win or lose! Love how protective the Hound became of Arya.

Thomas Strunk

come on, there's no way we can genuinely say the last season is a 1/10 lol. obviously we gotta keep this clean for non-spoiler reasons, but 1/10 implies it literally could not be worse. it was rushed, poor dialogue, etc. but still solid entertainment. i can't see rating it lower than a 6/10 and I wasn't a huge fan

Dani G

4x10 is arguably the best episode in the whole series. A masterpiece from start to finish and as good as GOT ever gets, IMO - with the exception of 6x10, which is right on par. That said, seasons 5-6 are still well worth the watch!

Faris Alamin

IMO It's a very normal human experience to be affected by the opinion of others and I don't think anybody can completely block it out.

Thomas Strunk

1:30 bruh how tf are we getting a Derrick Rose reference in 2024 😂

Dani G

My top 10 are: 1. Dany 2. Arya 3. Tyrion 4. Jon 5. Jaime 6. Margaery 7. Sansa 8. Cersei 9. The Hound 10. Brienne I love Ned, but there’s just not enough of him.

Darkstar

"Tywin dying on the shitter is poetic" - Brig. Bahaha this is the first time hearing one of the boys cuss

Asbjørn Kennedy

I remember on my first watch, despite not really liking Shae, that I was coping so hard that SURELY the lies she told during trial must have been some sort of plot to actually save Tyrion (misguided or not), we just didn’t know it yet. And I kept thinking that until we get the final proof of how much of a rat she actually was. Lmao I was so mad 😂😂

Lydia

I wish the GOT comment sections would be about the actual episode 😤 but my favorite part was Tyrion’s get back. His line “I am your son” was sooo good. Tywin fucked around and found out that Tyrion was more like him than he thought lol I also liked Arya going off on her own. When the Hound was listing off everyone she’d lost it really hit home what she has been through. The ending scene of her sailing off was perfect.

Uros Vesic

I disagree, but it is just my personal opinion. There are some good stuff in season 6, but as a whole season 5 is better for me.

yio

Jack giving this ep an 8.9 is such an insane L take I cant defend this man anymore

Jackson Carter

This was not for the episode, but the season. I have since changed my rating, but that episode was definitely a 9.9

Sean Carroll

You clearly weren’t paying attention. People have been complaining since season 5

Sean Carroll

Season 8 is a 1/10 in my books for many reasons that I can’t get into until we arrive there. The main issue I had was the nonsensical writing and character arcs that were thrown into the trash. It’s basically the writers taking a shit on all the people who invested 9 years into this show If you like cool flashy stuff then yeah you might enjoy it but it has no substance and I stand by my 1/10 rating. It’s genuine garbage to the point I hate the thought of it.

Leo

Chad, what is the link between S5 and HOTD?

llB0JANGLESll

Yes, I have, mostly the people who had read the books were complaining. But they are always complaining. I've seen this show front to back so many times. It cooks. Is it perfect? F*^K no, but when you start comparing it to other shows it still slaps. Still peak episodes. Peak production. You can blame GRRM for not finishing the books. When we were all watching week to week, I promise you people at the water cooler and people reacting at the time were not complaining. You need to get checked.

Leo

Sean, I honestly think you are bringing some fun here. I love it 😂. Sorry for my personal comments on you.

chaosisaladdahh

Fun fact the Oathkeeper OST from the hound vs brienne fight is a fire af arrangement, has been on my playlist since it released, most listened to in 2019 and 2023 (i was going thru sum shit). I HIGHLY recommend giving it a listen the cello goes Hard insane shit. Definitely my top TV moment ever. Sickeningggggg

llB0JANGLESll

This is actually a good thing tbh. Because they are going in with lower-than-normal expectations and we all know it actually cooks. I think they come out of it pleasantly surprised. There is a 9.9 episode this season which blew everyone's socks off during this time and is considered one of the best non book adaptations that was put in the show. This Sean guy doesn't know ish.

llB0JANGLESll

IT's ok Jack. Honestly there are a lot of Eyrie and Bolton scenes this season that people gloss over that aren't my favorite. I think 8.9-9.0 for the season could be justified. Plus, you went first with the rating. They set you up. If you went last, you probably would have gauged their pleasure over the season and adjusted. episodes 2, 6, 8, 9 and 10 are all great episodes.

Lydia

Tyrion Arya Jon are THE best. Loved them from the start too! All 3 have this way about them that is really special

Thomas Strunk

with respect to your reply and the no spoiling, 100% agree on the poor writing and arcs. both season 7 and 8 suffer from that. with that being said, i feel too many fans just toss a low rating at it. the show is still fine, just not great like it used to be. i can only see giving it a 1/10 if you rate it relatively.

Mysterious Figure

About time. Loved it. I would actually be interested in hearing their discussion on why they never do. Like an in depth one, on a philosophical level. Not just a bare bones one where they say it's about religion, but deeper than that.

Mysterious Figure

She was not the judge, she was a witness. A witness doesn't decide on the penalty of the defendant. Even if a person could in fact falsely testify to manipulate and guarantee a person gets the death penalty, in our justice system the punishment for that false testimony is NOT death, so check your morality guys. You are flying a bit high on the Tyrion fan train. I love his character too but lets get back to reality. I see so many people gangbanging wanting to murder a woman simply because why, because you hate her?? ...by all our laws and morality she does NOT in fact deserve to die. Altho, she does deserve all the hate she gets, depending on the circumstances of her side of the story that we werent actually shown in full. We dont know how Tywin/Cersei talked to her off camera after she was found out to be Tyrion's lover. There is no amount of witnesses that would change Tywin's plans about sentencing Tyrion to death. He was the one that MADE SURE Shae was put on that witness stand, if you think about it, it is pretty obvious, since Tywin/Cersei are the only ones that want Tyrion dead and Shae just fell into their lap like a surprise gift.

Sarah Wevers

Season 5 has AMAZING episodes, I can’t wait😭😭😭

Sarah Wevers

I get teary eyed watching y’all watch my favorite show ever I swear 😭❤️

cutty

A lot of men either see themselves or their father in him. I noticed a lot of men/boys who watch this show end up ranking him really highly. He represents the ultimate form of a good man.

Sarah Wevers

Jon Snow is not a brat😭

cutty

@Mysterious Figure being religious is a good enough reason to not swear, and it doesn't need to be any deeper than that. I respect them a lot for not swearing tbh, and it's probably better for their monetization on YT lol

jasmin

lol that half a second between this is epic and this is horrible was all of us watching sandor and brienne about to fight

llB0JANGLESll

1. Arya Stark 2. Jaime Lannister 3. Sandor "The Hound" Clegane 4. Tywin Lannister 5. Tyrion Lannister 6. Bronn 7. Tormund Giantsbane 8. Jon Snow 9. Bran Stark 10. Cersei Lannister

hollow soul

I feel brig on that magic part. Its been a fun rewatch tho and still some great things to come.

Derek

"She was no whore. I never bought her for you. That was a lie that Father commanded me to tell. Tysha was . . . she was what she seemed to be. A crofter's daughter, chance met on the road." Tyrion could hear the faint sound of his own breath whistling hollowly through the scar of his nose. Jaime could not meet his eyes. Tysha. He tried to remember what she had looked like. A girl, she was only a girl, no older than Sansa. "My wife," he croaked. "She wed me." "For your gold, Father said. She was lowborn, you were a Lannister of Casterly Rock. All she wanted was the gold, which made her no different from a whore, so . . . so it would not be a lie, not truly, and . . . he said that you required a sharp lesson. That you would learn from it, and thank me later . . ." -ASOS Tyrion XI

༒ dianna ༒

Tyrion got his revenge, and Arya my baby is free! I love them both sm. Arya will always be my fave.

Dani G

Completely agree. He is wonderful. The problem is, I get only one season with him versus multiples of the others that slowly climb up the ranks. I wish we had more of Ned. But I do think that we get a similar effect with Jon, who is essentially his successor.

SohamJ

"The Children" is one of my favorite soundtracks of all time. It made the season finale even more epic... surely my favorite of all 8

Bellamy Blake

My brother and I blast this song in the car on road trips. Instant epic vibes!

Ana

@Verticile I fully disagree. Season 6 finale the best episode?? Naaaah lol

Ana

If these were threats then she would of been hanged. Yet she wasn't ....? Her life was not on the line. Also many times she didn't care about the threats so why now? After that meeting with Tywin she was safe and started sleeping with him then. Shae lied on Tyrion because she wanted to

Jackson Carter

I just meant that he had to change so much in the beginning and really humble himself in his perspective of the Nights Watch and who he was supposed to be. He grew a ton throughout the seasons and is just now entering his truly goated arc

Matt Haloostock

5 and 6 are decent with some great moments throughout, but the quality of the writing starts to dip. Season 7 was bad and I was saying it while it was happening. But most of its critics held back bc they didn't realize how trash season 8 was going to be yet.

Daenerys Targaryen

I hadn't noticed this soundtrack before, but went to listen to it b/c of your comment. This verse has the best soundtrack I think. Can't wait for the HotD season 2 soundtrack to come out. This season's music has been next level.

Caraxes🐐DT

George also gave them points for where he was going with characters so even from 6-8 some stuff will happen in the books tho obviously he changed things

Daenerys Targaryen

For anyone who doesn't think Season 8 was terrible, maybe you'll respect the opinion of goat Tywin Lannister (Charles Dance)'s reaction to the series finale lol (you can find it on YouTube). Also, for the haters, Charles is a Dany stan ❤️

Jeanne Cheung

You guys should watch the red nose day GOT/coldplay parody lol no spoilers now haha

sushi

dany locking up her dragons always makes me feel sad :((

sushi

dragons who are allowed to roam free and be wild always grow bigger compared to the ones who are kept away so Drogon is naturally bigger than the other two

SohamJ

I agree! Looking forward to the OST. I was watching season two with the Geks here, but missed the soundtrack. Will same this for a rewatch 😄 P.S. Based on your name, you might like Mhysa from GoT season 3 as well 😄

sushi

Brienne is THAT girl 😌 i love her

Tim Zaum

1. Tyrion...................................... the rest

Dani G

Yes, Dany at number one. My favorite has always been Dany since day one.

Dani G

Because Cersei is such a fun villain. I love that crazy bitch!

Jessica

I think everyone thinks that… it’s heartbreaking thinking about what could have been… but let’s focus on the better parts before talking about it 💔

lola

GOT when 😭

Seth Aasland

the only thing people need to see, to understand how horrible season 8 was, is to just look up the reactions of the actors to the season 8 script. their faces convey a million words 😭

Sandi

I’m late af to this but my top 5 are: 1. Jamie 2varys 3. Tyrion 4. Ned stark 5. Theon

Arctic_stark

I mean he definitely is a brat when he first shows up at the Nights Watch, beating up the other recruits during training and stuff.

Arctic_stark

You should read the books if you want more Ned, as the books go on you see him through the eyes of many characters who knew him and remember him, and your love and respect for him keeps growing.

Chantelle Miles

I always get so heartbroken over the dragons scenes. Dany makes such a big mistake chaining her children, especially while being the breaker of chains. Rhaegal and Viserion did nothing wrong at all, and i know for sure that rebellious Drogon definitely didn't intend to burn/kill that poor child. He must of been recklessly cooking his food again like before, there's no way he'd just harm a child for no reason, they're too intelligent. Also, in the Hounds defense, he was protecting Arya and was definitely much weaker after having his onfected bite. Even Arya mentions him being slower than normal after that.

Not today

I guess, its all good your opinion is respected I think people are just bothered by the enormous amount of repition but oh well dod what you got to do there are bigger problems in the world

JBurley

I think season 4 is the best start to finish, but season 6 has 3x top 5 episodes for me.

Nicole

Wait what? Who sticks up for Shae? She’s a shady bitch and deserved everything she got. Don’t slut shame but in the GOT world…once a whore always a whore. Stupidty and stubbornness killed her. I don’t see her in chains, she’s not complaining. My lion f u shady shady B

Nicole

She should have left the first time. And no if you truly love someone and even if they put a knife to your throat you don’t stand there and lie to Save your ass plus her testimony was full of bitter caddy bullshit. Tywin and Cersei didn’t know details she told secrets and turned them around. She’s a bad person. She sucks

Ivan Flores

it’s actually not that hard to see how jack gave it an 8.9. he’s an absolute anime mark 😅 obv yall all like anime now but his favorite is one piece…. that’s all you need to know. also this would explain how he “forgets” everything because he genuinely just doesn’t care for the show that much. this exact show animated he would be 6 to midnight 💀

Ivan Flores

cannon needs to stop mentioning Lost 😂 that needs to STOP

LawL

Cannon: "What if she sees that he's the true king of Westeros?" 👀👀👀

Alex

Season 6 is peak in production and all of its episode endings are all impactful. So many mistakenly place it very high. But of course 1-4 are the best.

Voyager

They're Mormons. That's basically all there is to it. They have A LOT of rules to follow. Not swearing is one of the easiest ones.

Alex

LMAOO girl ur pfp is so funny and so so real i love gojo

Nicole

Hahaha true at least after a little finger taught her to be lol

Osvaldo

When I watched season 4 I thought it was the weakest season up til then

Secretly

bro gave it an 8.9-9 and you're out here having a hate boner about it 💀 what's the point of rating something if you're just supposed to match the public opinion. At that point just don't rate. I also think the boys were being a bit weird cause he didn't appreciate it AS MUCH as them. As if it's 9.8 or you hate it 💀 And then comparing a comedy to a drama makes no sense.

brittany beyerle

the foreshadowing for tywin's death is GREAT. tywin being such a powerful figure that he seems untouchable and little finger telling sansa, ""people die at their dinner tables, they die in their beds, they die squatting over their chamber pots. everybody dies sooner or later."