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.Game. .Of. .Thrones. 8x2 (Patreon)

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The fanservice episode!

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Kim555

I SCRUMPT

Sanji

GOT

Bri-Ana Monique

Is it bad I’ve become more excited about the Dark drops than GOT? 😭 I’ll still rock out season 8 with y’all though

Scinaps

Let's goooooo

Azmaing1

The last passable episode is here

GB3

I’m about to ruin your day with the most cursed theory I read 5 years ago when this aired. The theory goes that Arya was looking to bang the hound as her first choice before Beric came along and blocked and she went to Gendry as her second choice. If you rewatch that scene with that in mind it kinda fits, especially the annoyed facial expressions Arya makes as the hound and Beric go back and forth before leaving. So yeah, that’s a thing that you guys can’t unsee now.

Anthony Rodriguez

nobody thought this was a fan service episode at that time. everybody talks about that brianne

kivu_king

need some dark or one piece 🙌

Seth Aasland

ah yes, the “calm before the storm” episode

Blackeyedlily

Tyrion going from being one of the smartest, best strategic players to one of the worst is emblematic of one of the primary problems with the final seasons of Game of Thrones. Characters cannot act like they used to because they have to take certain actions to lead the story to the conclusion that the show runners wanted to tell. It is a problem with quite a few of the main characters at this point in the series. You can even find interviews with some of the actors who were saying this same thing at the time.

zena

LMAO i love how they crack up at everything bran does because same

danidelight

I'm in a dilemma where I don't wanna relive seeing these episodes but I wanna see their reactions 😅

EMG

Do you see now how people complaining about season 8 upfront ruin for you? Yikes.

Jake

Have got to watch the Jenny of old stones music video though. That shit will give u chills and bring a tear to your eye

Emily P

I loved this episode

Nivek

The big woman still here? Is the true meme of the episode 🤣

Nivek

Theon is truly the goat

Seth Aasland

Carter you do a fantastic Jim Halpert side eye

Blackeyedlily
>>150948450

Sansa and Arya both join that group. And while at this point I might say Arya is simply acting weird, Sansa’s attitude towards Daenerys doesn’t make any sense. Especially if you are going to believe Arya, that Sansa is the smartest person she knows. Sansa is not being politically strategic here. Which is the main thing that she has supposed to have gained over the course of the series. She should be grateful that Daenerys is there with her army and dragons. This is not the time and place for her to argue on behalf of the North remaining a separate kingdom, even if that is what she believes. And it is rather naïve of her to think that they wouldn’t owe Daenerys some type of allegiance for what she is doing. If she truly wants to work toward an independent North, this is not the time and place. They all need to be working together to the best of their ability. At least that is what a smart, politically savvy person would want to do.

Afra

Bran pisses me off sm 😭💀💀

Seth Aasland

Sansa and Dany should both be united by the simple fact that they have been serving the best looks these past couple seasons, especially this one. fashion Queens

GB3
>>150947278

Yeah that was my reaction when I first read it, now I can’t unsee it now

Scinaps

So glad they acknowledged that we told them to watch E3 with the lights dimmed, hopefully that happens

Amna 🍉

D&D having Sansa and Arya do sex scenes the moment they turned 18 was so freaking weird

Amna 🍉

I just know in the books Dany and Sansa would be getting along and trauma dumping on each other and sharing lemon cakes😔

Seth Aasland

if you guys haven’t watched it yet, you should watch the Game of Thrones Musical after all this lol. all the actors perform and sing and it’s very funny. they did it for something called “Red Nose Day”

Alexa

Dany really started to piss me off here. All the little micro cues suggesting that the only thing she really cares about is absolute power and authority. No respect for the Northerners and their hard won freedom. No humility about her ignorance to their ways. It's just so frustrating because I want to like Dany because dragon queen who frees slaves, but she's almsot entirely unlikable. I guess I gotta read the books

Débora Silva

I’m loving all those Bran jokes 😂

Amna 🍉
>>150948450

Although they 100% messed up Samsa's character, along with many other characters, I don't think Dany being there and helping is the problem. Sansa, just like Robb, wants the North to be independent. Hence that's why they named Jon "King", all the lords want the north to be independent. Jon didn't even have to bend the knee, Dany already agreed to help. The main problem is Jon bending the knee without even consulting the Starks and any of the lords in the North

Amna 🍉
>>150948450

I feel like Tyrion has always been more emotionally led tbh. He has his smart moments but the guy is damn near tweaking when Catelyn outsmarts him in the books multiple times

Amna 🍉

I really want you guys to react to the finale table read after watching the last episode👀

Amna 🍉

I wish jaime and dany had a conversation about her mother. Jaime had always cared about Dany's mother, Rhaella and almost went against the Mad King to protect her from the physical abuse the king was afflicting on her. Dany is also said to look exactly like her mother. So many moments for good dialogue😭

Amna 🍉

I never knew why they made Tyrion care and trust for Cersei...like Tyrion ONLY survived bc Jaime was human enough to care for him and save him. Book Tyrion would jump on the first opportunity to kill Cersei

Sarah Wevers

Brienne’s knighting is the best moment out of GOT season 8

Bellamy Blake
>>150952471

It’s difficult to respect someone who is calling themselves “breaker of chains” but then comes to Westeros demanding subjugation or death.

Scinaps
>>150952261

So unnecessary, neither one added anything to the story really

Kim555

React to Mean Girls for October please 🙏 it’s an October classic

Paula

Even if Jon was female he would still be the heir. He is the son of the Crown Prince, children are always bevor siblings in the line of succsession

Afra
>>150953404

I don’t think it would make any sense putting that on the show…

Amna 🍉

Jon IS AND ALWAYS be a bastard. Rhaegar's annulment with Elia doesn't make any sense in any universe. Also, D&D making Rhaegar the "nice guy" and not diving deeper into his character was a big mistake. Show watchers know nothing about his motivations for being obsessed with having 3 Targaryen children to mimic Aegon the Conqueror and his sister wives Rhaenys and Visenya. Or the fact that Rhaegar already had a son with Elia named Aegon who he believed was the prince that was promised. if they did the annulment wouldn't have made sense. We only have bias pov's on Rhaegar from Barristan Selmy and Jorah.

engraved
>>150952261

legit. they could have also just cut away when they were kissing at the very most and have it implied instead of doing all that

Nomaan
>>150955630

Don’t u know? They need to make Dany the most unlikeable and villainous Targaryen so it wouldn’t make sense!!

Nomaan

WHY IS TYRION THE HAND?? Like it actually makes no sense that Dany even kept him as Hand or even made him in the first place. I just can’t get on board with itttt

Amna 🍉

59:25, Cannon you almost got that right. Rhaegar was obsessed with having 3 children like Aegon the Conqueror and his two sisters. Rhaegar also had 2 children with Elia, Aegon and Rhaenys. He thought his son with Elia, named Aegon, was the Prince that was promised. As a book reader, is still not confirmed if Lyanna was kidnapped or not. But yea Rhaegar believed he needed 3 targaryen children aka 3 headed dragon to fulfill the prophecy.

Zipzzty

We in the Endgame now Fr

Paula
>>150954507

Nope even than. Gender complicates that but if the crown prince has heirs, it would still go through his line. They didn't knew he had alive heirs, thats why it went to Viserys.

Amna 🍉

I don't want a Aegon the Conqueror show bc i know for a FACT they're going to ruin the dynamic between Aegon, Visenya and Rhaenys.

Amna 🍉

Wait I'm happy Cannon is reading the comments and learning more about the lore! Please please please watch History and Lore🧎🏽‍♀️🧎🏽‍♀️

Mitch

Love how Tyrion says a factually incorrect statement. “They remember the last time targeryeons brought dragons north” um yeah Aegon the conqueror brought dragons north and they all bent the knee with zero bloodshed whatsoever. So what do northerners remember about dragons? Once again genius from Tyrion.

Zipzzty

So down bad for the next episode 😭😭

Jenny D

I actually liked this episode when I first watched it and I still do. I do agree that a lot does happen in it, but it's interesting because this is the calm before the storm. I loved Brienne's knighting. It was well deserved. Tormunds story was so awkward. Lol. I also enjoyed Pod singing. There were memes at the time that he sang to those women he slept with at the brothel and thats why they wouldn't take payment. I didn't have an issue with the Arya/Gendry scene. I mean I get we saw her growing up, but it might be their last day. And at the end of the day she is a teenager and I think she always had a crush on Gendry. I think Jon telling her comes back to honor and well the topic came up with them talking about Lyanna and Rhaegar. Maybe not the best timing, but it had to happen at some point. I'm curious to see what you guys think about the next episode. It is pretty dark at times. I get it's nighttime, but it was so hard to see at times.

Amna 🍉
>>150956829

If I'm remembering correctly, things between the Starks and the Targaryens only went bad under the rule of the Mad King. Before that, it was pretty good no?

Tamara Manley
>>150947278

Why would you do this to me😭😭 I won't lie though, this is the first time I've watched it in 2 years so it did pop into my head for a bit🤣

Myles

the discussion at the end lets me know the remaining episodes about to be messy af 💀💀

EMG
>>150948905

It’s great so I won’t be dealing with anything :)

Blackeyedlily

Yes, lots of fan service, but lots of it was very enjoyable. Three specific incidents were especially fun for the book readers: 1. Tormund’s story about the giant is right out of the books. It is how he got his nickname Giant’s Bane. In the books, the story is he stayed with the Giantess for so long because it was the middle of a winter. And she kept him warm and fed in a cave. It’s also strongly implied that this is just one of his tall tales, like the one where he drunkenly had sex with a female bear, because was he so drunk he thought she was a woman wrapped in a fur. 2. Jamie proclaiming Brienne a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is a reference to Duncan the Tall. He is an ancestor of hers. And in the books, she has a shield painted to look like the one that he carried. Although it doesn’t appear that she knows he is her ancestor. It is just a shield design she remembers from her armory at her home. I expect you guys are going to really enjoy the Knight of the Seven Kingdoms series which should be out next year. If you plan to react to the series, you probably don’t want to read the Novellas the series is based on. But they are a great read! 3. The song that Pod sang, Jenny’s Song is from the books. There is an old wood’s witch in the books who is always requesting that song from a singer, who is part of the Brotherhood. But it is written about Jenny of Oldstones, who married a Targaryen prince. Some fans believe that the wood’s witch was known to Rhaeger Targaryen and that he might have even written the song. The wood’s witch is also somehow involved in the Prince that was Promised prophecy. So getting to hear that song was a fun bit for book readers who enjoy a deep cut from the lore out.

Zipzzty
>>150957488

Reading comments like these are what make my day Thank u

Zannen Da

I thought it was the other type of fan services. 👀

Qhoa

W

Blackeyedlily
>>150948450

I’m not even saying that it would be wrong for Sansa, or any of them to want an independent north. It’s just a politically stupid time to be making this an issue. They just wanted reasons to create tension between Sansa and Daenerys.

David J

Just because it’s fan service doesn’t make it bad 🤦‍♂️

Euphemia Isobel
>>150954507

That’s not how it works in Westeros and even if it was Jon took the black he can’t inherit anything. Not to mention Rhaegar annulling his marriage is fanfic and only exists to create turmoil at the end of the show

bateman bookworm
>>150954507

Aerys disinherited rhaegar before he died, making viserys the heir in the line of succession. Idk if this is cannon in the show tho. It doesn’t even really matter anyway since the baratheons took the throne, making them all usurpers

Jessica

Brienne scene is one of my favorite scenes!! It’s so well done. And also Jenny of oldstones is amazing I thought you would enjoy it more 🥹😔 but this is where I stay out of the comments lol

Amna 🍉

I will always mourn Book Sansa. She goes from one of the most naive characters in the setting to an accomplished liar & political spy able to easily charm the back-up heir to the vale after one dance. Not only that, she might be warging into birds in the next two books👀LITERALLY not one good reason to change her arc and give her a side character arc.

Mitch
>>150956829

Yep they were fully allies and had a peaceful relationship but I guess Tyrion kinda forgot about history despite being the most well read man in the verse.

bateman bookworm
>>150956544

Also, idk how fun the show would be. Considering they were easily conquering westeros lol. Maybe if it focused on dorne? Even then if every ep is the people of westeros bending the knee to a dragon, and we all know the outcome, how entertaining would that be?

David J

Carters point in the end discussion makes me feel as he hasn’t watched a single scene of Jon in this show. He’s the most honorable character that is incapable of lying, of course he would tell Daenerys the truth. Why would he lie? That would be completely unlike his character.

Zannen Da

Wheres the starbucks cup in the episode?

Paula
>>150954507

It kinda does, thats what started the Dance of Dragons because through the Crown Prince people said Laenor was the rightful heir and thats why the great council was even necessary. But yes, if we leave out the stuff from the last two seasones it doesn't matter because Jon is probably still a bastard and we don't now how stuff with his nightwatch oath plays out after his dead in the books

Amna 🍉
>>150956544

Yeaa maybe it could be a short season? I just know they're going to ruin the dynamic between Visenya and Rhaenys for sure😭 and my queens deserve better than that

Linn
>>150949313

I was gonna say that, that song is so beautiful especially when it’s done by Florance + the Machine.

Jake
>>150949313

Yeah it’s a great throwback on everything I loved it

bateman bookworm
>>150954507

I’m assuming you mean Daemon and not laenor. The struggle was between daemon and rhaenyra because viserys had no male heir. If baelor didn’t die there wouldn’t even be a question as to who the heir is, it would be the kings son. The only reason it was in contention was because rhaenyra was a woman. If rhaenyra wasn’t already declared as the heir it would have gone to aegon. Daemon as the crown prince would have never even be in the equation. Regardless, Aerys disinherited rhaegar making him and his heir illegitimate for the crown. Viserys, the kings male SON was his only heir at the time of his death.

bateman bookworm

i just know brig mentioned the children at the end when talking about out jojen 😭

Billie

Theon >>>>>>> The more I think of him, the more I remember why he’s my undefeated no.1 character.

Niffol

Obligatory book nitpick sorry. Naath has butterflies that are poisonous to foreigners. Naatheen? naathians? are immune to the butterflies, but grey worm is not from naath. people don't settle there because of them. Slavers and pirates loot them, but no one ever settles because of the butterflies. shes inviting him to come die on her homeland lol

Sean Carroll
>>150954090

Easily the best arc in got, the best character in the show not ruined by the end

Niffol

To be clear... lol It IS lore accurate that Tormund CLAIMS some wild shit with giants. Is it lore accurate that it is true?! lol idk bout that one. lol

Sean Carroll
>>150958722

Haha staying out of the comments before the shitstorm, I’m working out my thumbs in preparation for some long comments

Zannen Da

Season 1 Jaime looked like Prince Charming from Shrek 2

Sean Carroll

Well it’s been fun, as of now this was the final episode that could be considered “ok”, These last 4 eps are about to bring out the hate in all of us once again. The worst rating I’ve given was 2/10 for 7x6…. These next 4 are genuinely 1/10 territory.

Jessica
>>150958722

Haha I can’t relive 2019 again so I’m out 😭✌🏼

David J
>>150958091

It was to me. Now go cry because someone actually likes it.

Paula
>>150954507

No, I meant Leanor. In now in the show it is presented like the choice was between Viserys and Rhaenys but in the book it was between Visery and Leanor (because here again, they didn’t count the women, it her son). So the grandson of the crown prince was even an option even though the crown prince died young and while his father was still alive and King. Hin dying doesn’t change being the heir, so if he has living heirs they are in line of the succession

Nanashi

Waiting patiently for Dark...

Billie
>>150962215

The hate was in you a couple seasons back sean. It was just brewing 🙃

Marcusinmilw
>>150962215

It's not often I agree with you, Sean, but unfortunately I cannot deny that this sentiment is all too true. lol

bateman bookworm
>>150954507

that’s because his sons all died, he had no direct male heirs so they held the great council. Once again, if his sons were alive there wouldn’t be a discussion btwn laenor and viserys. I understand that the crown princes heirs have a priority over any woman, BUT aerys disinherited rhaegar and his family. This is also going off the notion that rhaegar annulled elia and married lyanna lol. Which is not cannon in the books as of now

Daenerys Targaryen

Do you think any of you will read the books after you're finished with the show? I also am still holding out hope we'll get some Histories & Lore reaction at some point to keep the 'A Song of Ice and Fire' fever going ❤️

Zannen Da

Don’t they know Tyrion loves Dany?

Leo
>>150962215

Bro, I'm Leo. This channel don't have AOT S1E(1-7). Where can I find those?

Nomaan
>>150956829

Stop this made me laugh😭 and the way people are still so sure the ending will be the same in the books when the majority of season 7 and 8 don’t even make sense with book lore and literal FACTS😭

Dakota

Cannon was cooking in the outro, ngl. Looks like you guys got your storage situation taken care of. That's such a random problem to have. Also I'm pretty sure the dagger doesn't have a specific name that the character's in GoT know of. The prophecy on the blade only shows up under intense heat, so it's doubtful that anyone in GoT even knows there's a prophecy on it except Targaryens. Jon is so much like Ned, that keeping something from Dany, no matter how tough it was, was out of question. He was always gonna tell her. The timing is sort of questionable, but at the same time, they aren't sure if they're gonna survive to begin with, so he doesn't know if he's gonna have another chance. And yeah Bran can't see the future, just everything that has happened and everything that is currently happening.

BloodyBen
>>150961451

Just add it to the list of lore that D&D either didn't know or just didn't care about

Paula
>>150954507

I think we are talking past each other :D How it is in the books right know, Viserys was heir and after him it would be Dany (if we leave out the Baratheons), so I agree with you there.Of course they could be people who would prefer a male bastard to a female legitimate. But (I think) if we count the show as canon it would be Jon not Dany, according to the reasons I listed above

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150962215

Still trying hard to impose your own opinion I see! I happen to think that for all it's flaws (and it has quite a few) the next episode is both epic and tragic - with some unintentional comic moments (those pesky flaws!) - and I absolutely love it, flaws notwithstanding. And - hot take here - I have never considered it's darkness (i.e. visibility) to be any kind of an issue. It is of course supposed to be dark, and in fact that darkness allows for some of the more impressive scenes when some light sources are introduced. More importantly, I have a good quality large screen TV, properly balanced for light and contrast, and unlike reactors or large group viewings, I was able to watch in a completely darkened room. Of course we want to see the Geks' reactions so they don't (didn't?) have this option, but I hope they experiment(ed) with lights and settings prior to viewing, for optimal conditions. Thereafter I imagine our hitherto diverging opinions will fast become convergent! "I wish you good fortune in the wars to come" ;)

MateoP

The shit show is about to start 😆 only putting myself through this for the reaction because wtf were they thinking 🤣

THICKDICKRICK

Idk bout y’all but the next episode is one of my favorites

Jay R

Watch the next episode with the lights off!!

Amna 🍉

Sansa's northern fits are top tier😮‍💨🔥

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150949313

Perhaps it was never Podrick's "magic cock" that worked the magic on those ladies of the night in King's Landing, perhaps it was just his singing... after all, it seemed to do the trick for Tom O'Sevens!

Dani G

The first two episodes of 8 were so good. Sigh.

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150953645

No, that's just a common misconception. A "catspaw" is simply a person inveigled into doing the secretive dirty work for someone else, so the actual perpetrator is distanced from the act. It's a description, not a name.

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)
>>150956829

George has said in terms of 'how the books will end in comparison' ... "How many children does Catherine O' Hara have?"

Afra

Grey Worm and Missandei are so underrated fr

emma.bean

call me crazy but i think jamie looks goooooood this season. i like his hair 😭 and the salt and pepper beard.. hes giving sort of disheveled chic and im INTO it. 🔥

Ana

Episode 3 is not that bad it did what it was suppose to

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150956544

I don't want an "Aegon the Conqueror" show because everything of significance about the Conquest is already known, so the showrunners would almost certainly have to interfere with canon to stop it being a total borefest. In any case, another show set in Westeros would only serve as a further excuse for the Fat Fraud to idle his time away rather than FINISHING THAT F*CKING BOOK!

Ana

Finally got some Arya Gendry love

emma.bean

also why did i think the dagger was called 'Catspaw'?? where did i get that from and why is it in my headcanon... is that even true?? bookheads in here please explain.... spoiler-free of course.

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150956829

Tyrion's memory has been shot for some time. When Theon first pitched up at the Dragon Queen's court Tyrion rebuked Theon for "making dwarf jokes" the last time they met, At Winterfell... but in fact not only did Theon make no such jokes, it was actually Tyrion who was mocking Theon for his Ward/Prisoner status!

Mel
>>150968007

It IS called that, the assassin that tried to kill bran with it is called a catspaw assassin so it is referred to as that sometimes

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)
>>150956544

Yeah if they focused on Dorne and actually made up for it, gave them their flowers. It would definitely have to be more like a Dany (Aegon) coming to westoros, ending in the conquering, than anything else. I still want the whole Roberts Rebellion, starting back to the Tourney at Harrenhal.

Dani G
>>150962215

Nah, 8x03 still had some great moments at least. I would say the 3rd was the last watchable. The rest is atrocious.

emma.bean
>>150968007

okkkkk. interesting. that makes sense. im not sure where i even heard that name.. must have been from another reaction channel or from readin book lore on reddit, but it just stuck and ive called the dagger catspaw ever since. thank you for clearing that up!

Dakota
>>150965185

that was the name of the assassin that was sent to kill Bran so i guess it fits lol

Afra
>>150967583

Except of the unnecessary beefing of sansa and dany lol

Domo

From danys perspective, imagine going through all that you went through all those years just to get to the finish line and a guy who doesn’t even want the thrones comes to you and say “aye actually that’s mine sorry”. I would be pissed too

Nomaan

Also a fun theory about Aegon’s dream is that he saw the return of dragons. And if u know in the books Dany is like a young BALD 14 year old who could have been easily mistaken for a boy ( hence the use of the word PRINCE). And I think what backs this theory is the fact there is another Targaryen who dreamed of the return of dragons and his brother thinks the person to do so is himself cos he’s a bald young child also… I won’t say names cos it’s probably in AKOTSK series coming out. That’s why I believe Dany is TPTWP or it’s Dany and Jon. U can’t convince or try to say that her ancestors dreaming of the return of dragons isn’t relevant to the prophecy since in the books that prophecy specifically talks about the return of dragons

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)
>>150956544

What I've wanted the most though, which I think some have talked about before, is Summerhaul. I desperately need this that og catalyzed Rhaeghars prophesying, Jenny of Oldstones, and ghost of High Heart legends ...

bob

Yes! Theon remains the most consistent character. He's definitely in my top 5 in GoT. Those two farm boys would have been dead by winter anyways. 🔥🔥 I loved that scene between him and Sansa.

TheSauceGuy

The next episode is my favorite episode in the entire show! Like if you agree!

bob

Pod the Rod lore finally revealed. He sang to them. <3 🍆🎶

bob

It's great that all of Bran's scenes keep making y'all laugh lmfao. Gendrya scene was still uncomfortable even years later. 😐

ShanB
>>150948450

if i wanted to play devil's advocate and support d&d's writing i'd say Sansa did spend what seemed like half her life in the south @ king's landing watching sneaky warfare as opposed to how northerners do it. so not trusting a targaryen based off her textbook education and never seeing army of the dead or hearing scary northern stories does make some sense. Her priorities, despite what jon tells her, would still be on the war with the south.

bob
>>150972492

I ended up really loving the characters who are at first irredeemably flawed but end up paying the price for it and learning from them. Much like Jaime, also in my top 5. Also, Alfie Allen just killed it. He really sold that faraway-broken look.

TheSauceGuy

Maybe it's because I can't be immersed in the show in the later seasons, but I direct my frustrations toward the writers rather than the characters. Tyrion is made to look like a fool despite many of his plans (the Cersei one was bad) making sense. There is no world where Tyrion should've thought about Jaime taking Highgarden or Euron attacking Yara's fleet; these events shouldn't have even been able to take place. At this point, I only see the characters as actors following an incomprehensibly poor script.

hasaad woods

Definitely make a character tier list at the end of the show

Nomaan
>>150974490

Oh agreed. The real enemies of the later seasons are the writers and not the characters George created

TheSauceGuy
>>150961442

One of the only characters that didn't get his arc ruined by the writers. I do think there's a few areas where it could've been improved though, but they're not necessary.

TheSauceGuy

Arya is so insufferable, especially her facial expressions lol.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

The prophecy on the Valyrian Steel dagger is an entirely retconned artifice devised in HotD to try to trade on the success of GoT.

TheSauceGuy

The trebuchets on the outside of the castle walls lmao

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

I was excited for the react, then suddenly realized I would have to actually watch the episode to get it and I died. But it's over and I'm back to life now. 😇 Pod is my 3rd fav got character. All hail. Love Daniel Portman's singing. Love Jenny of Oldstones song ... both haunting & tearful imo 😢. These, along with Brienne (Gwendoline) smiling (and Nikolaj's acting), will always be the best part of s8 imo. One of my fav scores coming up in 8x3 is what I look forward to now. Anyone can try to rationalize every which way, but the Gendry/Arya hookup will never not be forced, uncomfy af, cringe imo. Gendry Edric Storm Waters won't be the one "deflowering" Arya in the books lol. We are almost to the finish, gl in the wars to come in your hearts, minds, and comment section. 🎩🤏🏾

TheSauceGuy

Theon has flip-flopped, but his character arc feels consistent and true to himself. Jon is incredibly consistent, but he has little to no depth, unlike Theon.

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150955630

Jon is not and never has been a bastard, as Samwell says. What you need to understand is that this is a TV adaptation, so THE BOOKS DON'T MATTER! If the show put in every single bit of lore that book readers obsess about, the show would never have ended, it would still be running today!

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150956544

Damn straight; the tragic events at Summerhall would be epic! Sadly, we will never get this, because it is the culmination of the Dunc & Egg stories, which is yet another Westeros book series that the Fat Fraud will never finish!

TheSauceGuy

I love seeing McKay's glances/smirks when something flies straight over the heads of Cannon, Carter, and Brig.

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150965185

No, no, NO! This has had to be explained so many times... "catspaw" is NOT the name of the dagger, it's just the word used to describe the assassin who wielded it in an attempt to kill Bran. A "catspaw" refers to a dupe who carries out an act for the person who is actually pulling their strings in the background; in this instance Joffrey was the "cat" (so to speak), and the nameless assassin his "catspaw". The dagger does not and never has had a name.

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)
>>150977831

I caught mmkays dissaproval right before gendrya gate, cuz it was the exact moment I was bracing for impact. It actually helped lol.

Amna 🍉

i also think its dumb how yall will talk about how much you hated season 8 and still hold characters to things they did in the later seasons. ESPECIALLY, with Daenerys and Sansa.

Amna 🍉
>>150955630

The books do matter lol. You constantly insult GRRM so of course you don't care for the lore. Not to mention the lore and the information from the books PROVES that Jon is a bastard so OF COURSE you don't care

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150968007

It is NOT and NEVER HAS been called "catspaw". The first response to your original comment illustrates exactly why this confusion arose - too many people have simply never heard the (admittedly somewhat archaic) term and imagined it to represent the name of the (actually nameless) dagger instead of it simply being the term for a dupe (the nameless assassin) acting via the secret string-pulling of someone behind the scenes (in this case, Joffrey). "First recorded in 1760–70; in allusion to the fable Le Singe et le Chat “The Monkey and the Cat,” by Jean de La Fontaine, in which the monkey, trying to save its own paw, uses the paw of a cat to retrieve roasted chestnuts out of a fire" from Dictionary. Com. It's hard to believe that in 2024 people still don't know how to use Internet searches or other basic online tools such as dictionaries. The misconception over the term has always driven me crazy, which is why this is the third time I've had to explain it in this comments section - and that's two times too many! I promise however that it shall be my last!

TheSauceGuy

Jack, Ser Duncan the Tall is Brienne's ancestor, but it's not mentioned in the show iirc. It hasn't even been mentioned in the books yet, but it is confirmed. The "a knight of the seven kingdoms" moment by Jaime is probably hinting at that a little bit though, as that's the title of the book that contains all three Dunk and Egg novellas.

TheSauceGuy

Heartsbane is my favorite sword of GoT. Many of the swords in GoT look cool, but wouldn't be very practical, especially Oathkeeper. HotD's swords are so much better in terms of practicality and they also look better with the ornamentation and Valyrian steel being Damascus.

Bean

Jack is the friend who argues just to argue lol

TheSauceGuy

Cannon, Rhaegar was obsessed with the prophecy and that sort of obsession is shown in many members of the family. Also, a lot of the actors were likely NOT looking forward to those fan service moments, and many were at least upset with their scripts overall. You guys should watch some of the interviews/script readings with the actors when the show is over lol.

Sean Johnson

PLZ PLZ PLZ adjust the brightness or get a better lighting version for next episode!

GB3
>>150972697

I don’t hate it as much as everyone else does. Yeah you can’t see and there are a lot of inconsistencies it’s not bad if you wanna just turn your brain off and enjoy action

TheSauceGuy

Jon's character in the show obviously doesn't want it; Daenerys is his queen lol.

TheSauceGuy
>>150972697

I don't want to turn my brain off though, that's the opposite of what I want to do in this show and the opposite of what it should be.

Ophelia

God I love this episode. Tormund cracks me up 😭😭

emma.bean
>>150968007

ohhhhh wow ok... dont love your tone. my google searches brought me nothing about your little fable and just led me to conflicting instances of people referring to the assassin as catspaw but also calling the dagger catspaw so i was just asking, damn. probably still just gonna refer to the dagger as catspaw because thats how it has existed in my head for a long time and they didnt give it any other name lol

boop

"the things we do for love" seems geks missed thats what jaime said when he threw bran out of the tower. more fanservice but kinda cool full circle ig?

TheSauceGuy

D&D stands for Dark and Darker, like the next episode. I agree that you should watch with the lights off. It is hard to see what's going on, but I kind of enjoy that because it mirrors the experiences of the characters in those moments lol.

selmak13
>>150952261

I also noticed this just now while rewatching this arya scene, they sexualized (put into explicit scenes/shown nude) every major female character in the show, from cersei, margaery, dany, melisandre, missandei, yara, etc, to now arya. Absolutely disgusting imo

DC

Kit Harrington alluded in an interview that the reason there was so much jon snow short jokes in the script was because D&D didn’t like him

Mysterious Figure

Still cant believe how quick you guys are to get choked up to tears for Theon, whose child murdering you so quickly forgot about because that little detail happened, I guess, oh so long ago... morality is super flexible nowadays because apparently all it takes is some character ups and downs and the child murderer is forgiven because his adventures took him so many places high and low... oh poor Theon with his sad face... Cant believe this crap is impressive to so many people, it sickens me.

NINJA SWORD

Leave Jojin’s name out ur mouth 😾 respect the goat

Hannah

Cannon’s facial expressions are killing me🤣🤣🤭

bateman bookworm
>>150985955

quite literally everyone on the show (few exceptions) has murdered a child or an innocent person lol….maybe this isn’t the show for u

thank u next

I need the next episodes asap 🙏

Mysterious Figure
>>150985955

@bateman why don't you list all the characters you still cheer for that murdered children, if for nothing else then just so we can see what an interesting person you are. What a perspective to have... and what a wild exaggeration you are making with your statement. There are plenty of characters in the show that arent murderers

hannahbee99
>>150985955

But it’s not like they completely ignored that aspect in the show. Theon’s whole arc in the show after escaping Winterfell is him dealing with the guilt he rightfully feels after all the things he’s done, including killing those farm boys. Jesus, Jamie pushed a child out a window and never went through the “penance” that Theon went through, but everyone loves when he knights Brienne because it’s ok to give him a pass? Theon is a great character, he’s written and acted incredibly. I think you’re also forgetting that show does not exist in our modern world. There was a time in OUR world when you could get away with doing the things done in GoT. Literacy went completely over your head because Theon is a Greyjoy, you know the people who rape and pillage as a lifestyle? But was raised a Stark (the most honourable family), and the series is about him reconciling that. We’ve watched him do terrible things and go through terrible things, then we’ve watched him save himself and Sansa, and try to redeem himself, even though HE KNOWS he’s not worthy of redemption and will never get rid of his guilt. That’s why it’s emotional, if you can’t understand that, maybe you’re not as empathetic as you think, or is empathy only reserved for people who do things you agree with?

Maari
>>150985955

Lmfao so pressed for nothing. Every single person on this show is a shitty person in some way shape or form and Theon is pretty mid on that scale and has had the most satisfying character arc out of all of them. Tell me, what the hell is the point rooting for a character who has never done anything wrong? Simmer down a bit there and let people enjoy the one crumb of good writing in this shit show.

Mysterious Figure
>>150985955

@hannah I am not talking about judging the character of Theon from the perspective of a person living within the world of GoT. I am talking about how I am surprised to see the Gek boys choking up with empathy to see a child murderer being welcomed and embraced in Sansa's loving arms after also being guilty of the death of her other family members. It's like do you have amnesia - both Sansa and the Gek boys? If I were Sansa, I couldn't care less about him reconciling shit about his Greyjos vs Stark background. All she should see is a murderer and a person guilty of her missing family members and having PTSD. You for sure would NOT run to hug a person like that. And as someone watching this as a viewer of the show having a sound mind, you for sure wouldn't empathetically have "feels" for this whole situation, except disgust. But the whole scene and the character story of Theon is constructed in such a way that you as the viewer SHOULD feel as YOU feel, which is basically manipulating you to feel as you are shown on screen, which is in fact not how reality works. You do not run lovingly in the embrace of the person that is at fault of the death of your family, that betrayed your trust, and murdered innocent children. Get a grip on reality. In my mind (if I was Sansa or any Stark), the only way for a person like Theon to try and seek redemption is for him to die trying to achieve it, and it would (should) STILL NOT be enough in MY (Sansa's) EYES considering the things he did. It is up to some higher being other than humans to forgive acts like those and in some other life. So her giving him a hug there just wouldnt happen in a million years.

lola
>>150985553

And I’d believe that… I genuinely feel like D & D had an inferiority complex because they killed off or dumbified every character that was likeable and had a strong fanbase. I genuinely feel like their mission after 8 seasons was just to get back at the actors that outshined them.

lola
>>150981638

Oh man no one tops Kit’s reaction to reading the final script. He was in tears almost and not because he enjoyed what he was reading 😭

Timmy Turner
>>150985553

Yeah they also made a small penis joke in s6 because they didn’t want Jon to be good at everything. Really weird inferiority complex they had towards Kit.

Mel
>>150968007

I was saying it is often referred to as catspaw dagger, maybe not in the actual show. Its ok if people refer to things a different way than you, especially if the term they are using is a correct term (it was used by a catspaw assassin so that’s how some viewers remember it by). Also, in the first book, Jaime and Tyrion call that assassin a catspaw so it probably first arose from book readers!

Timmy Turner

Can’t wait for the next Dark post, some real good food coming.

lola

It’s so funny because I’ve rewatched GOT multiple times over the years and by rewatch I mean S1-S6. I literally have not seen S8 since it premiered and I forgot how funny this episode was. Some dialogue was good, others were goofy but all in all this was a decent “fanservice” episode. Also, I agree with Cannon that at some point we would have had an episode like this, where everyone has to meet, even if GRRM had kept helping the writers in the later seasons. It’s almost inevitable… I just wish they had taken their time with the last 2 seasons. I truly still can’t believe a show that should have had at least 10 seasons with 10 episodes each was shortened to 8 seasons with even less episodes. I’ll actually never recover.

JAY
>>150985955

Technically….. Theon didn’t murder the farm boys. Sure, he didn’t stop Dagmer or whatever his name was from killing them and burning their bodies, but I do think it’s important to point out that Theon did not do the actual murdering of the children. He was also visibly shaken up and conflicted by seeing the bodies which is just more of why the way Theon is written throughout the series is so compelling. That complexity and inner conflict is interesting. Such a well written character & arc.

Maari
>>150985955

Just casually ignoring the torment and trauma the two of them endured, the fact that Sansa DID blame him and was RIGHTFULLY angry and hateful of him at first. Also, let's conveniently forget that he became her only small reminder of the life she once had, the only glimmer of familiarity in a place that was once her home; the fact that she desperately clung to that and was eventually saved ONLY because he helped her. Ignore that he saved her life and risked his for her more than once, promised to keep her safe, never once asked to be forgiven- only to try and atone for what he had done. That's far more than characters like Tormund, The Hound, Arya, Ygritte, Jaime, or Stannis ever did- and yet they get arguably even more love than Theon from most fans. Hell, even Jon hanged Ollie who was arguably just a hurt kid- and he was older than Theon at the time, who, in this, is around Rob's age, making him basically a kid himself when it all went down, AND he was persuaded/pressured into it by the other Ironborn who he thought he needed to earn the respect of (yes, foolishly so). But it's not as if he randomly went off to murder kids just for the hell of it like you seem to want to think. Character discussions in shows like this require a nuance and level of media literacy that your argument lacks.

rhett donaldson

We need a compilation of all the times Brig has said "Three-Eyed Raven" it's so funny lmao

bateman bookworm
>>150985955

jon, dany, and the hound are three right there that have all been responsible for the death of a child. And they are some of the most beloved characters

Twuan

The Dagger 🗡️ is called( Cats paw)

Vanessa Sanchez

I love how you guys have an open mind about this season! I know you all have heard countless of negative reviews about this season. I myself can attest to a majority of them. However, it’s great you all are judging for yourself. Of course, have your thoughts and feelings on it but remember to enjoy it for what it is. It is still overall an amazing show!

Sanji

Doesn’t Jon have to kill the night king bc of the prophecy? He’s the prince who was promised. Maybe I’m wrong I forgot haha

hannahbee99
>>150985955

HE SAVED HER!!!??!? He literally saved her life, and you forget that Sansa was in Winterfell with Ramsay too, she knows first hand the torture he received for YEARS. I have literally never encountered someone like you with such a privileged, naive, narrow minded view of life. Life is NOT black and white. Did you even watch the show? No one is forgiving Theon for murder? Even Jon said to Theon that he couldn’t be the one to forgive him or absolve him. It’s pretty clear from Theon that even he doesn’t believe he can be forgiven, rightfully so. It IS EMOTIONAL to watch someone who has done terrible things, but also gone through terrible things to come full circle, to recognise that even though he can never make up for his mistakes and crimes, he can lead the rest of his life honourably. Getting emotional at that scene doesn’t mean you forget the bad things he’s done, it’s called feeling empathy for two people meeting after going through a traumatic experience together. If you can’t recognise that, YOU lack empathy. YOU are not Sansa, you’re not anyone but yourself, and newsflash, not anyone in this world fantasy or real would react the same way as any other individual. I doubt you went through what Sansa went through, seeing as we don’t live in medieval times, so what YOU think she would do is irrelevant. “Mysterious Figure”, it should be apparent to you by now that majority of GoT watchers do NOT agree with your viewpoint here. YOU are not the moral authority on how people are supposed to feel when watching a scene with 7 Seasons of emotions built up. Theon saved Sansa’s life, they share a kindred experience with the trauma from Ramsay, it is not left field to for Sansa to feel emotional when Theon comes back to tell her that he saved his sister and came to Winterfell to fight and potentially die for her family. Jon killed a child, the Hound killed a child, Jamie pushed one out a window, Tormund, Ygritte stood by while the Thenns killed and ate a child’s family, even Arya killed a child! If we go off your logic there are NO characters in GoT who we can “morally” get emotional about. Get off your high horse, stop trying to impress your personal morals and agendas onto a show set in medieval times with VERY grey moral areas. You need to take a look in the mirror and recognise that YOU need to become more empathic if you’re ever going to understand anyone else’s viewpoint or actions.

Sanji

I get what Jack is saying. Tyrion is better at governing a country than commanding a war. He’s a great politician but not a conqueror

Ron Jackson Jr
>>151002186

sanji alot of the boys were talking alot about u with the recent one-piece episode what are your thoughts about it.

John

“You’d be 1v1-ing grey worm” is absolutely a fact 🤣🤣

Zess
>>150985955

Also Theon isn't the one responsible for the starks death? You used that as the main point of your argument for why all of the current starks should hate him. He betrayed them, he did not kill them.

Sanji
>>151002186

They are clearly delusional. I mean their favorite character is Mosshead 🤣😂😭

Lydia

Yall were too funny this reaction 😂😂

Steve

Kite

Brienne's scene and Pod's song are the only things I like about this season, even if it's fan service

TheSauceGuy
>>151001684

He hasn't fulfilled jack shiz at the moment. I guess you could argue he has united people.

TheSauceGuy
>>150985955

While it's awful, those two farmboys were entirely inconsequential to the plot. Bran and Rickon's deaths would not be (kind of).

Sanji

Lady Misandrei and Grey worm are both sooooo dead HAHAHA

TheSauceGuy
>>150985955

Jon hung a child, Tywin had a child gang raped, Jaime pushed a child out of a window, etc

TheSauceGuy
>>150985553

Maybe I'm misremembering, but he seemed to be more making jokes about that saying "they're evil people" or something like that lol. Maybe there was a bit of truth to what he was saying though.

TheSauceGuy
>>151003457

As much as I dislike Arya in the later seasons, I don't think her taking the lead is all that odd or inconsistent. I won't defend Hollywood trends or D&D, but in this instance, she hadn't "just turned 18." She was 22 when the season aired and she hadn't "just turned 18" by the time it started filming either. In terms of her character, she was 11 in S1 and 18 in S8. I think it feels odd because Arya hadn't physically grown much and it came across as a bit forced. The show ages characters up because nobody wants to see a 14-year-old Daenerys get raped; it makes sense for the setting, but people don't want to see that. I mostly agree with your last three sentences.

Sean Carroll
>>150961451

“Missandei kinda forgot about the poisonous butterflies and eurons forces but they certainly didn’t forget about her”

Sean Carroll
>>150965185

SPOILERS BELOW “Why do you think I came all this way” Pretty sure that proves he can see the future. Little shit knew what would happen and let it happen anyway

Sean Carroll
>>150967370

Meh, there has literally been like 3 scenes showing their love/relationship which makes me completely uninterested in either of them. Also greyworm should be dead as it’s not feasible he escaped eurons forces at casterly rock

Sean Carroll
>>150967583

No it didn’t, next episode completely ruined the entire storyline it was building for 8 seasons and ended in the absolute worst way possible. The plot armour was at the highest level of any show I’ve ever seen and overall was an absolutely terrible episode

Ana
>>150967583

Well Sean the show is over. There is nothing to be done. The episode was good when I first watched. If you take out everything you know it was some great moments in the episode

Sean Carroll
>>150981638

Varys literally threw his script away from him, that is peak reaction to reading this shite

Sean Carroll
>>150985553

Barristons actor complained that he would be dying considering he’s still alive in the books and plays a large role and dumb and dumber literally said that him complaining made them want to kill him more They aren’t good people

Sean Carroll
>>150985955

Mysterious figure, you should go back to the playground, obviously adult conversations are too much for you.

Sean Carroll
>>151000486

Just remember that the season 8 hate comes from ep 3-6, the first 2 episodes weren’t good but they aren’t the reason season 8 is considered the worst ever. Also people tended to enjoy this episode the most in season 8

Ana
>>150985955

Womp Womp. Theon the goat. He atoned for that. Worse people deserve that torture and got off easy. Also Robb got himself killed by breaking his oath. So how did Theon get the starks killed?

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150955630

The Fat Fraud knows what "adaptation" means even if the viewers don't. Peter Jackson entirely erased Tom Bombadil from his LotR trilogy because the books don't matter. D&D removed most of Rhaegar Targaryen's backstory because THE BOOKS DON'T MATTER. And if they do matter to all the pernickety book nerds, why don't I hear you/them whining about "Brienne-of-f*cking-Tsrth"'s interminable travels with Nimble Dick and Shagwell and Septon Meribald?

vally

I don’t really want a Aegon the conqueror series, because: 1. we already all know what happens, and what really can you do against three dragons (and dragon-riders who are using them correctly - unlike dany)? Maybe from the perspective of Dorne because they were the only who could stand against it? But then I don’t think they’ll go this way, since the Targaryen’s and especially THE most known Targaryen is a big selling point. 2. I’m not confident that they’ll not f* up Visenya and Aegon… so let’s just be them 3. I kinda like the mystification of Aegon (4. I really really really do not want Henry Cavill as Aegon!!! I just don’t see him in this role. Also I think a new and much younger actor would make more sense and should’ve given the chance. You don’t really need star power to promote this series. But that’s just ofc my very subjective opinion.)

llB0JANGLESll

Would be epic if they film their reaction in night vision mode for the next episode so they can watch with no lights. I think it could work out. Wonder if their cam is capable.

Ana
>>151011223

Omg facts. Like I don't understand the appeal for a show. Maybe a movie? But a full show for something so quick? Please no. I'm also sick of the targs. There's so much more to the universe. I'd rather have a show about the first long night. Roberts rebellion. Some Stark lore. They keep shoving the targ stuff down our throats

lily p

Yes the biggest part of why Aegon conquered because of his vision. Prior to him conquering the seven kingdoms were independent and constantly at war with one another. He knew they had to be united under a Targaryen if they were to stand a chance against the cold, and he predicted that one of his blood (prince that was promised) would lead them against the cold. Aegon also understood that the prophetic visions that ran in his family eventually became true to reality. The entire reason the Targaryens left Valyria was bc one of them was a dreamer and predicted the doom 12 years before it happened. So Aegon knew that eventually his vision would come to heed.

vally
>>151011223

Im always open for more Targaryens but I agree there are a lot more things you could show about the world. Maybe even outside of Westeros? Or if they really wanna have a Conquerer show it has to be a film or mini-series with one or two seasons maximum, depending on how far they wanna go

Alex

I thought Jack only saw the first episode of season 8? Actually I'm not surpirsed he doesn't remember

Vik Mar

Hey BuB, deadpool and wolverine is out digitally 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

Nikita M
>>150958895

Honorable doesn't mean tactless but I guess it does in this case because he does tell her at the most unnecessary time. Ned kept that secret for years and even lied to his wife and made her believe that he cheated because he wanted to protect Jon from being killed. But Jon believes right before the biggest battle of their life--the same battle he hasn't shut up about for seasons--is the right time to tell the person who needs to be fully concentrated at defeating magical evil beings while flying on a dragon about something that will occupy her mind throughout the whole battle. If Jon's character wasn't so dopey, I'd even believe he did it on purpose to throw her off her game and have her be killed so he can take over. But of course that's not why he did it, he did it because he's HoNoRabLe *insert mocking Spongebob meme* LOL P.S. Please don't take my comment against you. I'm just expressing my frustration at the character and more so the writing of said character even if it's true to his past behavior, it would've made him a better character to keep that in till after. I agree with Carter.

Nikita M
>>150956984

I agree Arya/Gendry scene is not surprising because when she was younger she seemed to have a crush on him. But it was done pretty tastelessly. If she was more like her old self, more lively and human, it wouldn't be weird. But now she acts like this emotionless killer who only cares about fighting. Her flirting with him was basically just demanding him to make weapons and then doing random shows of her skills lol And then she comes and starts commanding him to undress and have sex with her. It just comes off weird, there's no emotion involved.

Nikita M
>>150955630

Book or no book, in what medieval world do they have marriage annulments? lol Even in our current times, divorce is frowned upon in some places still. When that scene first happened, my thoughts immediately went to how is that allowed? It's weird just from the fact that in this old world (the show world because I haven't read the books) marriages are arranged and unbreakable oaths. You don't just undo them because you feel like it and you fell in love with someone else. They cheat on their spouses, they do all kinds of things, but never heard of anyone doing an annulment. It makes no sense.

SirCatelot

Ok, I doubt you will watch "inside the episode" at this point, but could you at least react to episode 3 through 6? Like you do with League videos? Please, you are missing out alooot

David J
>>150958895

I think that Jon thinks they have no way of winning the war anyways so telling her or not telling her in Jons POV doesn’t pull the rope in either direction. It’s basically useless information (useless because he believes they’re already dead ) in the face of imminent death. At least that’s the way I see it🤷‍♂️

Nikita M
>>150952471

I agree Dany seems power hungry but also why would Sansa bring that up at that moment? If they're all friends and getting along, which was the point of Dany coming there to talk to her, to form a genuine alliance, why does Sansa feel the need to bring up the North's need to be independent? To do what? The only reason they need to be independent is so they don't have to listen to her. But why don't they want to listen to her? Has she demanded something of them already that they disagree with? A true diplomatic person would try to strengthen the alliance Dany was trying to build with that conversation not try to come off as an adversary. Dany even said at the beginning of the conversation that it seemed that they were in agreement (during the Jamie scene) and clearly she did not challenge Sansa's and Jon's decision to let Jamie stay. Not to mention, why can't she bring up the North's independence after all the battles are finished? It's just unnecessary tension for the sake of drama.

Frosty

"they ruined his character"... idk man, maybe its just me but it feels more real when smart characters arent eternally 400iq never making mistakes. they can make mistakes and still be a cut above the rest especially when the reason for the mistakes is something as real as wanting to believe your family (even when theyve been deceitful in the past) because the situation is becoming more and mroe dire

David J
>>150958091

How is it really fan service when it aligns with ones character arc? The things that happened in this episode (Brianne getting knighted, Arya and Gendry sex scene, etc..) weren’t something that just came out of the blue. And I understand the Arya and Gendry SS to some will come as a surprise, but as someone who has re-watched 4 times the seeds were planted long ago. While yes, the pacing was fast, I have no problem with the actual events that occurred.

Nikita M
>>150949313

I cried so much when I watched that during the time the season was airing. 😭😭😭

Nikita M
>>150958895

Yeah could be. Maybe he thinks he won't have a chance after. But then that makes me think what does he gain from it other than just getting it off his chest and making her feel bad. She already loves him, so it can't be that he wants her to know they're family. The way their conversation goes feels more like he's trying to get some form of a validation because now he's above her in status and he's always struggled with the fact that he was only a bastard who didn't even know his mother. Which is fine if he did it for his ego because it makes him more human and likeable in my eyes. I wanted Jon to be more of a grey character from the start. But it wasn't really clear what his intentions were.

Agent September 🏴‍☠️

Man idk if I can watch these last 4 episodes again. I don’t remember enjoying a single scene.

Nikita M
>>151017164

I agree I don't like smart characters always being able to outsmart people and be right all the time. The battle strategies Tyrion came up with in season 7 failing were fine because we can say unexpected things happened (Euron, etc.) It felt like it was done more for the story to go a certain way on purpose than because logically Tyrion's character failed. But him trusting Cersei I find very uncharacteristic of him. Especially trusting her to send armies to fight with her enemies. Yeah she's pregnant and wants to protect her child but from all his life being with her, he should've known she'd set up traps, lied, did everything possible to cause them harm till her last breath rather than to help them. Cersei has shown that so far from the beginning of the show.

Ayaulym🇰🇿

The Arya scene was SO unnecessary. I don’t know what is it with the creators’ obsession of female characters losing their virginity in the weirdest way. Like that scene served NOTHING. And we didn’t need to see all that about the girl we literally saw grow up since she was like 11💀

Jenny D
>>150956984

I get the impression that like with Bran the old Arya died. She had a lot happen to her so young and she thought coming home would suddenly make it all better but it's not the same home she left. I think she was trying to feel something. Some semblance of normalcy. I think she thought killing her enemies would somehow make it all better, but it's just made her colder and harder.

Frosty

Is it not so aligned with the character of Jon Snow to not want to keep holding in this huge secret to someone hes in love with and is relying on, AND at a time in conversation where its relevant? Theyre talking about Lyanna and Rhaegar and hes essentially clearing her brothers name to her. And the reason for Daenarys's sussyness is that even if she loves and trusts Jon, theres literally nothing else shes been living for besides the Iron Throne and now that Jon is technically the rightful heir she has to be worried about that fact getting in the way of her life-long goal, whether he wants it or not.

Sam
>>151018639

Just play spot the Starbucks for a chuckle

hannahbee99
>>150985955

Damn Mysterious Figure, you’re so controversial you’ve got all of us on the same side, even Sean. Honoured to have you as a comrade in arms for the first time Sean 😂

MagicSquirrel

I love this. It's so freakin entertaining. This whole season + you guys's reactions is like watching a blooper reel. It's hilarious. You guys finally understand how the show went nose down skydiving without a parachute xD

Daenerys Targaryen

@Shadow, where are you my King? Haven't seen one of your insightful comments here yet!

Not today

I am one of those who is happy with season 8. Love episode 3! I really think the Geks reactions were heavily influenced by negative comments. I just dont understand why people would not have wanted to see their reactions without any preconceived notions? I can tell this episode they were looking for things to nit pick so they could agree with others. Almost every interaction they were giggling at. I have not seen reactors do this during this episode, quite the opposite- many liked this episode calm before the storm. Also you think its so hard to belive Arya wants to expeerience sex before she dies? Why? She always took a liking to him and he is hot so why not? Yeah its weird shes like all of our little sister, not everything is comfortable and I think that scene was tastefully done. Arya throwing the daggers. Gendry has no idea what she has been up to and doesnt understand why she wants the new spear. Shes not the type who is going to go on and on about her journey and where it has les her to. So she tells him she knows death, he has many faces and shows her talent. To me that is all that has to be said/ done for him to get the point. I think that part was great. Please try to enjoy the last couple episodes without preconceived notions. I have watched many times with different people and none of them have the issues that book readers have.

Not today
>>151025157

I disagree, she thinks she is about to die. Why cant she experience something most people get to do in their lifetime? Just because shes like our little sister doesnt mean her needs and wants stop. The dialouge was great, in an Arya way and the scene was tasteful. No compete nudity, just some side boon, no actual humping. Just some kissing like 2 seconds. Its weird for us but realistic. I have 0 issue with this seen and shows her, in her own way that she thinks she may not come out alive.

Not today
>>151017164

I never had a problem with Tyrons decisions and find it odd when so many others think his character got ruined. He made more emotinal pleas towards end but that is understandable as family was involved. Hes not a robot. He has feelings, hes trying to balance emotions with moral choices but also protecting Danni

Brig Andrus
>>151043481

Not influenced by comments. It’s just kinda mid. But that doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it!

Ayaulym🇰🇿
>>151025157

I am sorry but there was enough nudity for me. Like yes, ofc she can do what she wants but they showed way too much of that. It felt like writers just wanted to do something with her since she turned 18 (just like they did with Sansa’s actress). Like “she’s an adult now so let’s get her naked on screen and use time that we could for something more meaningful”. If you know any long running series, then getting an actress do a sex scene as soon as it is allowed is quite common in the industry. I think a gentle kiss and a fade out or smth would’ve been way better

Frosty
>>151043481

even tho i wish some of the story panned out a lil differently, im mostly with you. unfortunately youre fighting an uphill battle, and honestly its not even their fault. even if literally zero bias, social pressure, reviewer credibility, etc were involved they could still genuinely have had the same reactions and thoughts, but theres just too much of all those things involved for most people to not be affected at all... which is completely normal! just try to enjoy the reactions for what they are and hopefully you can stick around to check other shows out cause this is the worst show possible for any of the stuff listed before and theres not much anyone can do about it

Jsjdifjfjfjrjkeowkhdhf

This episode has so many feels. I am emotional throughout the episod

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>150985955

And he executed Ser Rodrick just to look good in front of the Ironborn. I say "executed", but really he butchered him, as he had to have several tries to remove Ser Rodrick's head.

Sean Carroll
>>151043481

Isn’t your comment also giving them preconceived notions as well? Let them react how they want to react, if they love it great, if they hate it great, it really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.

Alexa
>>150985553

D&D are textbook narcissists who can't separate fantasy from reality. They're narcs, but stupid narcs who didn't realize that doing such a poor job at wrapping up an epic and beloved series would tarnish their reputation as writers. Imagine if they had given two shits, they'd have gone down in history and had their egos stroked for years to come. Truly dumb narcs 🤣🤣

Alexa

Yeah as much as I wanted Arya and Gendry to be a thing romantically, it felt sooo forced and rushed. Plus it was just super uncomfortable to see Arya naked. Obviously Maisie was a grown woman during the filming, but as many have already said, we watched her grow up in this show. It's like watching my little sister or my daughter lose her virginity bro it's weird asf 💀

Alexa
>>150985955

Dang Mysterious Figure you're getting kinda cooked here though some of the ad hominem attacks I disagree with. I'm gonna add my bit of salt as well.🧂 Theon has the most dramatic character arc in the show. He's commited some craven acts in the name of establishing his own identity and a desire to feel like he truly belongs to a family. There's not a single person on this earth who now, or ever has lived, that can't relate to the desire to know and express oneself. There are also many people who, like myself, have felt like an outsider in our own families and wished there was something we could do to be acknowledged. For me that is the number one thing that makes Theon an empathetic character and deserving of the emotions that get stirred up in all his scenes. There is an internal struggle evident from scene one, and in the later seasons we get to see him begin to triumph in his quest to seek atonement for the mistakes he made while seeking belonging. It's enough to make a grown man (or woman 😭) cry.

Ayaulym🇰🇿
>>151043481

I am glad that u liked it but I feel like if you have at least a bit of media literacy then it is difficult rate as great. If you wanna know about why people like me hate these seasons then there are bajillion of videos on Youtube that discuss both good and (mostly) bad parts of the season. I'd suggest to check out at least some of them, most of them are really great at expressing the frustration fans feel.

Afra
>>151039977

He’s busy rn but he’ll be back soon

Patrick
>>151000486

I really hope this is the worst kind of sarcasm. Haven't really enjoyed any reactions since season 7 because they know the circlejerk and keep nitpicking.

Patrick

Aaaaand the nitpick circlejerk is back. Real genuine reactions right there!

Twuan
>>150997484

Well what is it called 👀🤷🏾‍♂️

Marc-Etienne M Jobin

Lol they binge watched GoT and Arya was a kid like 3 months ago in their minds lmao. It didn't feel weird to me. The actress was like 22 during that scene.

Bean

long night long night long night long night

I❤️movies&tvshows
>>150997484

Yes it is. It was on the page of the book when Sam turned the page in 7x2. Even Martin has mentioned it in interviews as the Catspaw dagger. It was discussed when the first episode of HOTD came out in the questions being asked.

I❤️movies&tvshows
>>150985553

He is so short they had to put heels on his boots. You can clearly see them in one of the upcoming episodes.

I❤️movies&tvshows
>>150968007

You need to go watch the Ryan Condal and George Martins interview after season 1 episode 1 of HOTD. They talk about it extensively and how it is the same one. Go back when Sam finds the dragon glass they show it in the book the page before.

Dani G
>>150966850

Agree to disagree. I thought early season eight was off to a great start. Especially episode 2 that gave us some many heart-warming moments and new character interactions to absorb before the big battle.

Dani G
>>150974490

Same. In my eyes, they cease to be the characters I know and love. I don’t hold them accountable. I blame the writers for derailing their characterizations and rewriting them into lesser versions of themselves, if not completely changing them.

Amna 🍉

Haikyyu tonight?

Twuan
>>150997484

Correct!!! I don’t know what this other person talking about lol

Mysterious Figure
>>150985955

Theon's sense of entitlement and his own gain was more important for him than the lives of two innocent children which was enough for me to cross him off the list of characters I have no empathy for till the show was over. Everyone here riding your high empathetic horses are just convincing yourselves you are justified in rooting for a child murderer and an entitled incompetent bitch whiner character that had some pathetic growth over 8 seasons. A dead horse would have that amount of growth with how many opportunities Theon has been given by that uninspired script he's been given. His character earned nothing. I will say it again. If he had done what he did to YOU and your family, you would NOT run into his arms to give him a hug like Sansa did in this episode's scene. That was a trash scene and trash writing. All of you eating all that up sickens me, but I guess you guys would just be that empathetic towards a murderer that was responsible for the death of your family members. After what he did, he got what he deserved. I'm just saying the writing for his character was so boring since I couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel for him, because I don't think he deserves redemption. That's why I think his whole character ark was pointless and annoying. I am also not cheering for any of the other murderer characters, nor do I care to compare the levels of moral depravity in this show. This post was only really me being surprised at how everyone so easily ignores what a horrible person Theon is, simply because you got manipulated by bad writing.

Dylan Roy

Tyrion, Littlefinger, and Varus are the perfect example of the fall of in writing quality during the later seasons. their dialogue and actions become far more surface level and there conversations get relegated to dick jokes

Holly F

I don’t get some of these comments. A lot of you are saying that they’ve been influenced by the negative comments but there’s a reason for those negative comments. It’s objectively a bad show/season at this point, the Geks are able to form their own opinions from what they’re seeing.

Nikita M
>>150956984

Yeah, I can definitely see her trying to feel something.

Nikita M
>>151017164

I don't think his character was ruined. I just think he became too timid and unsure and too trusting contraty to where his character was going. Not that I'd want him to be ruthless, but after he killed his father he kind of became a shell of himself for a while just making cock&ball jokes most of the time. Then once he was hand and was making decisions, they were kind of meh plans that any other person could come up with. We just weren't impressed by him as an audience as we were before. But the fact that he ran away from KL because his family was trying to kill him and then goes back to trusting Cersei makes no sense. She tried to kill him on so many occasions. He seemed like he was completely done when he killed his father and Shae only to go back to sympathizing with Cersei.

Not today
>>151043481

No, because I wasnt saying after every episode in comments how great the episodes are and they are the best no matter what anyone says. I am finally now saying this at the end because Im sick of the hate and it is so obvious that they were just waiting to see how bad season 7 and 8 were based on the comments they saw. So now they are really just nit picking anything , you can tell by the comments they make. I would have loved to see their reactions without them having any influence. I know first time I watched I thought was pretty flawless, while not really having outcome I would have preferred. Thats okay. Shows arent always going to end how you want. But to me acting was still top notch, as well as cinematography. I presonally love season 8 each episode is so different from each ither that I take away from it. I get why book readers my have issue but I think it would be more fair for book reactors to have a book audience. A non book reactor with non book audience. Perspective is so much different then.

Mitch
>>151083234

Yep it would be much better if they laughed and smiled and talked about how amazing the dialogue was and how perfect the writing has been! 🤡🤡🤡

kaan

As much as I really dislike these episodes, I can’t lie Bran is hilarious lmao

Nonos
>>151043481

Literally would have been impossible for them to have reactions without “any influence” like u say cuz this is one of those all time shows where everybody has heard of how bad received the ending of it was. Even without the comments, the geks knows there’s a fall off. I mean it’s rlly not hard to notice the fall off either. Nonetheless, they have said many times they’re still enjoying it for what it is, with like you have said, the cinematography, acting etc so I see no issue.

MaraReaper
>>151093594

Her getting with Gendry was the weird part imo. Always felt more like a big brother/little sister relationship than romance.

Blackeyedlily
>>150957488

Thank you! I love how complex the books are. And I hope I’m not too annoying with these details. But I always want to promote the books.📚

Blackeyedlily
>>150948450

Okay. But as a smart player, Sansa should be using what Daenerys has to offer right now, due to the crisis they are facing. Creating division at that moment doesn’t help. Her campaign for an independent North could be taken up once they are past this crisis.

1999

When that Arya sex scene started all I could think of was Ramsay saying “You grew up with her as a girl, now watch her become a woman” only this time he’s saying it to us the audience. 💀

Sean Carroll
>>151113621

People aren’t able to handle the fact that other people don’t follow along with group think and the concept of personal thought is a foreign concept to them

I❤️movies&tvshows
>>151011223

They already casted for it. The women they picked for Rhaenys and Visenya don’t really have the Targaryen facial features. Danerys, Rhaenyra, and HOTD Rhaenys have similar (not exact) facial features. But the Aegon show woman look nothing like them.

I❤️movies&tvshows

There is a new movie coming out that both Kit Harrington (Jon) and Sophie Turner (Sansa) are in. Once you guys finish the series you should check out some of the movies that came out after the show with main character from GOT together in them. There is one that the actor who play Jon and the actor who plays Robb Stark are in together. The Eternals. It’s fun to see them together in that one. Arya (maisie) had some too. Plus Sophie Turner in the Phoenix marvel movie.

jrnoodles

Thank you! We're nearing the end! 😢

Patrick
>>151083234

Stfu. If I wanted to talk to a dumbass I would've let you know, no worries.

Jaqen H'ghar

Carter at 28:58 is killing me LOL. Same dude, same.

Bulkin
>>151083234

if you look at season 8 OBJECTIVELY compared to the other seasons it is awfully written. there is no way around it

kraekay

Theon is my favorite character in the series, and I love SO many. He is the ultimate GOAT.

David J

Yo can we get 8x3? Y’all really love to edge us.

A_Daddy Daichi

In all actuality, Theon really is the goat. I liked his redemption arc on first watch but man rewatching, he has to be one of my favorite characters of the tv GoT

A_Daddy Daichi

Bran’s expressions were funny AF! 😭 like you have to laugh

Ana
>>150985955

Are you forgetting that Theon is considered family to the starks ? Family forgives each other. Sansa hated Theok rightfully so mostly because everyone believed he killed Brian and Rickon but he didn't. Making it easier for Sansa to be more open to him. Theon's betrayal did not get Robb killed. Robb's death is all on himself. Theon helped save Sansa and put his life at risk for her. Sansa forgave him. He hasn't done anywhere as bad as any of the characters. Killed less people then anyone even less than Jon. But he atoned the most for what he did. Bad writing?? In any of the first 3 seasons I never stopped liking or sympathizing with Theon. Because Theon is one of the best written characters. Most people don't dislike Theon even after the betrayal of Robb. And why are you watching a show full of "depravity " and hating on people liking characters with flaws? That's a big point of the show. It's also just a show. A fake show with dragons and zombies. It's not that deep. No one supports child murder. Get off your high horse

BloodyBen

Just give us the not so long Long Night already

BloodyBen
>>151083234

Bro can't stand that people dislike an objectively bad episode/season

BloodyBen
>>151043481

"I think the geks are so dumb and immature that they lack the mental capacity to form their own opinions" - Not today basically

Zechree

Carter wanted John to say “I don’t want it”

Scinaps

I personally don't care for all the other cinema/live action drops. I just want them to finish GoT already. 😪

Not today
>>151043481

No not at all what I said or think. I find them all intelligent and funny. I personally feel they are being cringe at parts when other viewers arent like that at certain parts. Arya throwing daggars, Brianne being knighted. Jon on dragon last episode. It just seems they are picking certain plot points and thinking oh thats what others must be talking about, when in reality I think they are not focusing on the things that actually made it bad for some viewers. I dont think they can help it the barrage of negativity towards season 7,8 would put anyone off. Especially from Sean. And its mostly book viewers not people first time experiencing GOT that have issue with the seasons.

Anna J
>>151001684

"Argue"? Lol the whole prophecy is that the prince "will unite the realm against a common enemy". That's literally what Jon has been doing the entire show

Anna J
>>150970336

A bald 14 year old with tits and a woman's figure. Jesus you hc Dany stans will convince yourself of anything lol

Nomaan
>>150970336

It doesnt sound like u have brains so let me explain. I’m assuming u watched HOTD season 2 finale… it could literally be like that… from the back so u can’t see her from the front. And she’s only 14 so it wouldn’t be obvious that she was a girl from the back. Hope that helps. And please don’t tell me u think it refers to Jon if ur gonna dismiss Dany immediately 😭🙏

Uros Vesic

When this ep aired, I was super excited. As I love Jamie the most, this was great character episode for him. All characters reuniting, I liked it very much, enough to not care about weak parts. One ep in this season I won't have many complaints. I didn't like Arya scene, but I am glad to say I still enjoyed watching this ep.

Shadow
>>151039977

I’m here now khaleesi. I was getting ready to go hunting then went for a couple days so I’m behind on the reactions. And obviously not as excited to hop into these episodes lmaooo. Probably good I keep some of my comments to myself

Shadow

Theon is def arguably the best character in the show. Not a lot of real complaints

Shadow

Rhaegar wanted jon to complete the “3 heads of the dragon” that he thought was needed. Similar to the 3 conquers. He had a son(the real Aegon which is why Jon’s name being Aegon is dumb af) and a daughter already.

Isaiah

The arya scene is so uncomfortable man 🤣

Madjoe

crazy how in every Bran scene they have to laugh😂

G

“ make me a suit”😭😂

Matt Haloostock

Jon is more ambitious from the books but I don't remember him having a dream where he wanted to kill Robb to take Winterfell (I still haven't read the last 100 pages since I'm waiting for Winds of Winter lol). And something like that is pretty jarring so it's something I should remember. I mean Jon is the one who was ready to run away to help Robb. He definitely had a lot of love for his family. Apart from his ambition, his leadership skills and ability to read the situation and think strategically are more noticeable in the books as well.

NoneOfYourBeeswax
>>151147503

"Hot Fuzz" is a brilliant film starring Simon Pegg & Nick Frost and a fair few Game of Thrones actors.

KL

I understand Dany's reaction to Jon, it's not about him not wanting it because we know he wouldn't. But she knows him being the male heir will make others doubt her and would want him to be the king regardless of what he wants.

Nomaan
>>151701557

"I am the Lord of Winterfell," Jon screamed. It was Robb before him now, his hair wet with melting snow. Longclaw took his head off. It’s in ADWD so maybe u haven’t read it yet

Matt Haloostock
>>151701557

Thanks for letting me know. Either I haven't gotten to that part yet or I just don't remember it for some reason.