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The Expanse - 2x7 The Seventh Man - Group Reaction

Here we go guys the seventh episode of season 2 which is properly titled "The Seventh Man" This is the aftermath of Ganyamede the biggest question is who is the seventh man not wearing a vac suit?? --THE NORMIES PATREON PAGE---Support our channel! https://patreon.com/thenormies ~~~You can Send us Stuff~~~ The Normies P.O. Box 785 Fishers, IN 46038 Social Stuff snapchat - thenormies instagram.com/the_normies twitter.com/the_normies facebook.com/thenormiesgroup

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Tony Camas

No comments on this one? In the words of Bobbie Draper, "where's the love, guys?" This was actually one of my favorite episodes of Season 2, mainly for the various Anderson Dawes scenes. Jared Harris is awesome.

Tina L

I remember being super confused by this episode. There was a lot of political moving and shaking but all I was interested in was Gunny. I am pleased to know that I was not the only one who could have used some cliffnotes. XD

Tony Camas

For what it's worth, I think that was intentional. It may or may not have worked for you -- it's hard for me to comment because I had read the books previously, so I knew what was going on even if she didn't. But the basic idea here (according to the people making the show) was to reveal the happenings on Ganymede slowly, essentially showing things from Bobbie's (Gunny's) perspective. She was heavily traumatized and doesn't remember what happened with a lot of clarity. If you've ever experienced an extremely traumatic event (even something as simple as a major car accident), it's not unusual to have difficulty clearly recalling the traumatic event. For some people, the memories eventually come back; for others, they never do. The writers chose to use Bobbie's traumatic memory loss as a tool to hold back some of the details of the Ganymede incident from the viewers. We are forced to piece things together as she does, so that we identify with her struggle through our own confusion. From comments I've read (elsewhere), a lot of people liked the way it was eventually worked out and understood (after the fact) why it was done this way, but others didn't. I'm curious how you felt about it in the end (if you can say without spoilers).

Tina L

Thank you for commenting. I just want to clarify one thing. I wasn't confused about Bobbie's storyline. In fact I found it to be the most interesting part of the show so far. It was some of the rest of this episode I was having problems with. For example the point of capturing the missiles in a semi-sneaky way only to give them back as a show of faith. And what the belters are up to in general and how they think their plan is going to work. I understand the need to set things up, that's how stories work, I just didn't think it was explained as smoothly as other episodes of The Expanse.

Tony Camas (edited)

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2021-07-19 11:42:34 Ah, I see. Sorry I misunderstood. I think part of the problem with trying to understand what the Belters' plan is is that the Belters really don't have a plan. They have, like, half a dozen plans, varying from half-baked to completely crazy. The big meeting early in the episode was Fred's attempt to herd cats, and it obviously did not go well. Fred basically is looking for a purely political solution, and he thinks that he can use the nukes he's holding either to scare or cajole the Inners (Earth & Mars) into inviting the Belt to their peace summit. Fred is looking for legitimacy for the Belt, and he thinks this might at least start the conversation. It's not a great plan, but it's a plan. Dawes, for his part, doesn't trust Earth & Mars, but more than that, he doesn't trust Fred very much. Or else he does not like any plan that doesn't make him (Dawes) more powerful. And then, the various faction leaders, most of them just want to blow things up... basically, they're out for revenge and nothing else. But you've probably figured this all out by now. It IS a bit confusing, but I think it's supposed to be. The idea is to show that the OPA is not one unified group and make you wonder if it ever could be. I just find all the manipulations and game playing fascinating. It's not very good for the Belt, but it is (to me) entertaining. This is a pretty flawed group of people. I think the episode is designed to show us that, which sets up various future OPA politics down the line. I agree that it was a bit confusing, and that it's hard to tell who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. But I think that was intentional. not a lot of easy answers on this show.
2018-02-15 07:19:24 Ah, I see. Sorry I misunderstood. I think part of the problem with trying to understand what the Belters' plan is is that the Belters really don't have a plan. They have, like, half a dozen plans, varying from half-baked to completely crazy. The big meeting early in the episode was Fred's attempt to herd cats, and it obviously did not go well. Fred basically is looking for a purely political solution, and he thinks that he can use the nukes he's holding either to scare or cajole the Inners (Earth & Mars) into inviting the Belt to their peace summit. Fred is looking for legitimacy for the Belt, and he thinks this might at least start the conversation. It's not a great plan, but it's a plan. Dawes, for his part, doesn't trust Earth & Mars, but more than that, he doesn't trust Fred very much. Or else he does not like any plan that doesn't make him (Dawes) more powerful. And then, the various faction leaders, most of them just want to blow things up... basically, they're out for revenge and nothing else. But you've probably figured this all out by now. It IS a bit confusing, but I think it's supposed to be. The idea is to show that the OPA is not one unified group and make you wonder if it ever could be. I just find all the manipulations and game playing fascinating. It's not very good for the Belt, but it is (to me) entertaining. This is a pretty flawed group of people. I think the episode is designed to show us that, which sets up various future OPA politics down the line. I agree that it was a bit confusing, and that it's hard to tell who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. But I think that was intentional. not a lot of easy answers on this show.

Ah, I see. Sorry I misunderstood. I think part of the problem with trying to understand what the Belters' plan is is that the Belters really don't have a plan. They have, like, half a dozen plans, varying from half-baked to completely crazy. The big meeting early in the episode was Fred's attempt to herd cats, and it obviously did not go well. Fred basically is looking for a purely political solution, and he thinks that he can use the nukes he's holding either to scare or cajole the Inners (Earth & Mars) into inviting the Belt to their peace summit. Fred is looking for legitimacy for the Belt, and he thinks this might at least start the conversation. It's not a great plan, but it's a plan. Dawes, for his part, doesn't trust Earth & Mars, but more than that, he doesn't trust Fred very much. Or else he does not like any plan that doesn't make him (Dawes) more powerful. And then, the various faction leaders, most of them just want to blow things up... basically, they're out for revenge and nothing else. But you've probably figured this all out by now. It IS a bit confusing, but I think it's supposed to be. The idea is to show that the OPA is not one unified group and make you wonder if it ever could be. I just find all the manipulations and game playing fascinating. It's not very good for the Belt, but it is (to me) entertaining. This is a pretty flawed group of people. I think the episode is designed to show us that, which sets up various future OPA politics down the line. I agree that it was a bit confusing, and that it's hard to tell who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. But I think that was intentional. not a lot of easy answers on this show.

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wow mikey might be the worst