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Better Call Saul 4x3 Watch Along (Patreon)

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2024-12-17 16:00:08
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Better Call Saul 4x3 Watch Along

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John Cedar

I took Kim crying less as her being moved by Chuck's final words to Jimmy and more as her just being hit with the fact that Chuck never would have said these things to him in person. I think she was crying about how hollow those words feel to Jimmy now and how she can hear that in his voice. She knows what's going on beneath the surface and it's the situation itself that brought them here that's sad, not just the fact that Chuck is gone. It's like she's lamenting the very nature of their estranged brotherhood, and what could have been (or that's how I took it) I think it's easy to forget that Kim is one of the smartest people in both these shows and she sees situations for what they are.

Vasili Brasinikas

Ira, the guy Jimmy hires to steal the figurine, was also on Breaking Bad. He was the guy running Vamanos Pest, the extermination business Walt and Jesse used for their meth cooking. I love the way this show illustrates how Jimmy/Saul has so many contacts in Breaking Bad, without being overly showy about it.

Chris Bruneau

some trivia: The "burglar" that Jimmy uses is Ira, who will eventually open up Vamanos pest in BB!! Also, watching Kim fall apart as Jimmy reads that letter, Rhea Seehorn's acting is SO good!!!

Tteaal

What does it say about our character that we all expected Chuck to stick it to Jimmy in his final letter to him. I'm surprised he played it by the book....yet again I'm not a legal expert so I won't be surprised to find out that letter was very cordial and "sentimental" so that it adds to one of the things that Jimmy won't be able to use to contest his will. I think the ambiguous nature of the letter is an excellent touch made by the writers. Here's someone who has been a thorn of a brother to his younger brother for years, now in his final will decides to make amends, seemingly out of goodwill or seemingly to make sure that Jimmy doesn't get anywhere close to what Chuck's personal assets and net worth are. I think the backstory of Chuck really makes us understand Saul's cold-hearted nature when we meet him in Breaking Bad. If he can be fk-ed over by his own brother, it's definitely easy to see every stranger he meets in that way and it's understandable to not really care unless there's money involved.

Smapdi
>>158559657

Exactly. It's underlined by the fact the letter was clearly written before Chuck knew Jimmy was becoming a lawyer. The only time Chuck ever felt secure with their relationship was when he was able to stash Jimmy away into a place he couldn't cause any trouble. Chuck's natural big-brother instincts contorted over time into this idea that he had to protect the world from Jimmy. Keep him down in the mail room. Chuck was only capable of writing that letter, at a time when he felt confident that he had Jimmy contained and under his control.

Christophe

100% agree with you that the twins are goofy. They are by far my least favorite characters they brought back from Breaking Bad. And in Breaking Bad, they were fine, because they only came in, were following Walter for a bit and being threatening, and then died. They really weren't around long. And they weren't really characters, they were just symbolic of Walter entering new, more menacing, more serious cartel business. That he wasn't messing around anymore. But bringing them back in Better Call Saul and making them like actual characters that interact with other characters and the story more actively, just highlights the fact that they don't make sense as actual people. Like, how do they even communicate with each other? They have to talk, right? But we don't see it because that would just destroy anything that makes them as menacing as they are. Initially, the fact that they don't talk and just do things super coordinated and synchronized adds to their power and menace, but the trick wears old and just comes across as unnecessary and kind of over-the-top intentionally goofy.

Christophe
>>158559657

I think what you said is pretty spot on John, but I would also add that I think Kim is also reacting to the fact that Jimmy ISN'T reacting. Kind of in the same vein, that the relationship isn't what it could have been, but seeing it so clearly with Jimmy, that he either actually completely moved on, or just chooses to bury his feelings so deep and has just chosen to become an unfeeling robot when it comes to Chuck. It goes back to what I was saying in the previous episode when Kim vented at Howard, that she carries a lot of the emotional burden for Jimmy at the moment because she feels she has to and she wanted to let him grieve. And seeing him so unaffected by the final words of his brother just breaks her heart because she doesn't want Jimmy to be that way. She might even be realizing to what extent Chuck actually kind of used to be a guiding light for Jimmy and that that's gone now; don't get me wrong, Chuck wasn't good for Jimmy, but trying to impress his brother and trying to make him proud at least somewhat kept him on a moral path. Now she sees that that is completely gone for Jimmy, that he's free to act as he likes, and maybe even purposefully rebel to spite Chuck in his grave. I think she sees Saul emerging here.

Christophe
>>158566739

The letter definitely was a "last fuck you from the grave", as Kim put it last episode, but I don't think intentionally so. I think Chuck meant what he said, that he WAS proud of Jimmy at that point; but of course, the fact that he didn't update this letter, didn't write a new one after he became a lawyer to say that he was proud of that accomplishment, speaks volumes. As to the fact he only left him that minimal amount, I think it's hard to say when he decided that. Maybe long before he wrote the letter? Maybe at the same time, so saying he was proud of him but still not trusting him with his money? Or did he have a will where he left him more and actively changed it after Jimmy became a lawyer? We don't really know. Obviously none of the possibilities say anything good about Chuck. But in my mind, the two things (the letter, and the amount specified he would get) were always kind of unrelated, like Chuck didn't consciously link one to the other.

Phan

I really love how complicated they made Chuck in this show. The letter adds to that.

Eric Wall
>>158559657

Yeah, I always interpreted it as her reacting mainly towards Jimmy’s non-reaction. She keeps waiting for him to have this big moment of feeling for his brother. Instead he’s whistling and letting everything roll off his back. This isn’t Jimmy, and I think it scares the heck out of her because she has no idea what’s going on, but she intuits that whatever *is* happening is very wrong. In a lot of ways, Kim is acting as proxy for the audience. We don’t have a direct line to Jimmy’s brain, so we’re watching and waiting for what we know should be there. We know Jimmy loved Chuck. We know he was trying to make things right with him at the end, so we know all this coldness is fake. It’s a coping facade, and we’re just waiting for it to break. But will it?

Joshua Luzania

I think the letter is before he found out Jimmy passed the bar. I feel like the most OK Chuck ever got with Jimmy was him being a lowly mail room clerk under him. I feel like that's where Chuck believed he deserved to be and had the most peace with him. And even in his last words, he said their mom loved him, but he still NEVER told Jimmy that their mothers last words while Jimmy was gone was saying Jimmys name. He couldn't even bring himself to put it in his final words.

Damien Lupo

Here's some REEALLLLY pointless trivia. The guy who runs the printer shop and is sleeping in his office, orders a pizza. When ordering it, he says 'Yes, I want it sliced!' Well, apparently he orders from the same place as Walt and Jesse, because when Walt throws a pizza on the roof of their house, it's an un-sliced pizza, and when Jesse's house becomes a party house and he has a guy order pizza, it arrives un-sliced and they decide to cut it with scissors. It's explained that they'll knock some money off the price if the customer slices it themselves. It's a silly, pointless bit, but it made me laugh and also hungry for pizza.

Chris Bruneau
>>158611937

Damien--the sliced pizza wouldn't work for the garage roof scene, so they did it the other way--its been a running joke ever since :)

Kara

Great reaction! Walt wont start cooking for some years in the current timeline. Gale is presumably a post-grad and can be any age but maybe 35? 36? It's been 8 years IRL between filming so some character will look different, that's the downside of not recasting (I'd rather they keep the OG w/ makeup than recast or do horrible AI de-aging technique). FYI Gus' henchman are Tyrus and Victor, Victor is the box-cutter throat slit guy. I really like the cameos in breaking bad because they always move the plot forward, not just fan service. When Gale pops up its not just "look its gale!" but its also like, okay, Gus is having him test local meth samples so he can find a supplier and begin his long plan to have Gale cook meth in the superlab + kill the cartel. Remember in BB when Walt turned up, Gale basically begged Gus to let Walt cook so he could learn from him... Walt reeaally fucked shit lmfao. It's complete speculation but I always wondered if Gale was gay, if so there might be this extra connection with Gus as a sort of older mentor figure vibing on the same wavelength, especially if he met Gus as an under grad or whatever. When Jesse caps Gale he's killing not just a near-indispensable cog in Gus' machine but someone he's known for years, as close as a friend as Gus can have, someone he mentored possibly from like 18yo to 30+ and possibly a kindred spirit... it's heinous in retrospect. No wonder Gus got the box cutter oot.

Kara
>>158611937

ya, the meme is Vince Gilligan was "annoyed" (not really) by people asking why the pizza wasnt unsliced so made it canon that this place doesnt slice the pizzas.

Kara
>>158600239

The letter is almost certainly from when Jimmy worked in the mailroom and before he told Chuck about the bar.

Kara
>>158566739

I agree, I think the letter was supposed to be nice but like Maple said, it's basically pointless cuz years of bad stuff happened after Chuck wrote it. Kim sees what could have been and it breaks her. Jimmy only sees what was and writes it off.

Skialar M

kim isn’t crying because she’s moved by chuck’s words; she’s crying because she can feel jimmy’s obvious emotional disconnect. she’s heartbroken by chuck and jimmy’s relationship, and where it’s all gone. and she’s especially broken by the fact that it’s so painful for jimmy that he can’t even sit with it anymore.

Joe Blankenship
>>158611937

The Ninja Turtles got their Domino's pizza unsliced. So they could throw it in the air and Leonardo could slice it with his kitanas.

Damien Lupo
>>158611937

Everyone responding to my silly comment is doing really good work, this is a fun community! :)

Joe Blankenship
>>158600239

Yeah, since he mentions the mailroom in the letter, seems Chuck was fine with Jimmy doing a menial job, but oh no, Jimmy can't touch his precious sacred law! That's like a chimp with a machine gun!