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Enemy of the State (2003) - Full Reaction (Patreon)

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We officially love this type of suspense/thriller movie!! It actually reminded me of the runner up film, The French Connection, with all the cat and mouse chasing. Gene Hackman stole every scene he was in-in the best way. Also made you think about the premise-about boundaries of privacy when it comes to government security.

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Wes

One of Hackmans best

Bill Maurer

Gene Hackman has a tendency of stealing every scene he was ever in. Great, great actor "The Searchers"

Eric Wallace

Im not home but I Am So F***ing excited for this reaction.

Alex Tan

Enemy of the State actually came out in 1998. This and Crimson Tide (1995) are TWO movies that I need to get Addie to watch. #CrimsonTideForAddieCounts #EnemyOfTheStateForAddieCounts

Eric Wallace

I clicked on this to see if Carly was there after the link is broken

Rose

I actually enjoy “The Conversation” better. That’s one of Hackman’s best performances.

David Kent
>>167882734

When I got the notification I thought I'd do a double feature of this and Crimson Tide. It's a definite we have to watch these from me.

Just Plain Bob
>>167882890

Not only is “The Conversation” a far better and smarter movie, but Hackman is actually the star of that film, not giving a glorified cameo in a movie starring Slappy MacSlapperson.

Eric Wallace
>>167882773

And carly is there. Yay. Too think I used to not like her being there for reactions. Crazy.

Vwlss Nvwls

I saw this one in the theater. I have always been a huge Gene Hackman fan. So sad he is gone, but he left behind a great great legacy. RIP Gene Hackman

Vwlss Nvwls

Behind Enemy Lines is Owen Wilson and Gene Hackman. Enemy at the Gates is Jude Law.

Rose

My friend who did time working in the Air Force Office of Special Investigations - it was quite the life and experience. It was a great and exciting career but we’ve known for a long time that our lives are pretty much an open book.

LittleGalaxyBoy

For the longest time, I thought Enemy of the State was a Tom Clancy movie because its director also made Crimson Tide, which I mistakenly thought was The Hunt for Red October. So, I assumed he had done two Clancy adaptations. Turns out, I just mixed up two submarine movies, lol. Also, for some quick context, Cassie. Tom Clancy was a novelist known for writing detailed espionage and government thrillers. A bunch of his books got turned into movies you’ve seen, like The Hunt for Red October, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Sum of All Fears. Most of his work has actually been turned into video games, like Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, The Division, and Splinter Cell, all under the same brand name. Rainbow Six is the only one of these created by Clancy himself, while Splinter Cell and Ghost Recon are original creations inspired by his work, capturing the same tone, style, and themes. The Division, from my understanding, was based on unreleased writings before his death. And speaking of The Division, I’m literally playing it right now while watching this reaction, perfect timing!

Above Average Dave
>>167884287

Once again, Rose Knows™ 😁😁😁😁. It's getting harder and harder to go off grid unless you're worth more than $20M. Even then, any digital assets you own are subject to seizure and deletion. This film was incredibly prescient for its day. If you want to be completely terrified of what they can do now (and this is only what we know about), read Annie Jacobsen's "First Platoon." The scariest part? It's non-fiction.

Above Average Dave

I know this movie is disliked by many here, but it's always been a favorite of mine for a variety of reasons, including the pacing, dialogue, suspense, intrigue and Gene Hackman absolutely owning every scene he's in. For those who've seen THE CONVERSATION, I thought this casting was amazing as he's basically playing Harry Caul and his trajectory 20 or so years later. I saw the spec script right after it was sold (for more than $1M,a s I recall). It bounced around a bit after that and Oliver Stone considered directing at one point. Though it went through several rewrites, the shooting script remains about 70-75% of what David Marconi had in the spec. Fun fact: George Clooney was supposed to play the Will Smith part at one point but he picked THE PEACEMAKER (meh) instead. I thought this movie was incredibly prescient for its time. Now we can pretty much assume they have eyes on us 24/7, have predictive AI working (like THE MINORITY REPORT) and can ruin your life at any moment. I'm excited to watch both your reactions on this, but Cassie, did you catch Jack Black (before he became JACK BLACK!!!!) and Jamie Kennedy and Seth Green in straight roles? Both were looking to break into HWood at the time and their agents wedged them in small roles like this until they could get traction.Also, Garry Busey's brother plays the flattop assassin with the big teeth.

djKENTO

Please just watch The Conversation. Throw it in as a bonus. You’ll appreciate this movie even more.

Mike Lemon
>>167882734

??? Why are you posting what another reactor should watch? Isn't that like telling your wife how much better your girlfriend is? (that's a joke but the point isn't)

djKENTO
>>167885996

also here to say… not everyone likes Hitch and it’s not even close to Will Smith’s best.

Alex Tan
>>167882734

No, as a patron of another reactor, this is one that I've been suggesting to her as well.

Mike Lemon

Just started the movie, will either of them recognize the great Barry Pepper, my favorite "oh, that guy" in movies. edit- Nope, and she has seen him on-channel in The Green Mile (one of the guards), Saving Private Ryan (the sniper), and We Were Soldiers (the reporter) and off-channel in True Grit.

Dryfesands

"Day Of The Jackal" (1973) needs to be on the list then.

Dennis BrĂźntjen

2003? Enemy of the State with Will Smith ist from 1998.

ROBERT CLARK

This film made me afraid of being watched

Clay F
>>167885996

I have added The Conversation to my watchlist but The Conversation only got 4% in the poll. She should throw in the 3rd place Mississippi Burning (17%). She reacted to the 1st and 2nd. I like Hitch ok but my top two Will Smith movies are "Six Degrees of Separation" (1993) (w/Donald Sutherland) and 'King Richard" (2021).

Chris Thom

This should be a trip. Haven't seen this since my birthday in 1998. I remember absolutely zero about the plot. But it's reminding me what a big star Will Smith was back in the day. And how prolific Gene Hackman was. RIP.

Chris Thom
>>167884975

I kind of want to see the Oliver Stone version. This does feel like his wheelhouse in a way.

Chris Thom
>>167887511

Oh dang that would make for an amazing poll. The greatest Oh That Guy films and appearances. I nominate Will Patton from No Way Out.

Chris Thom
>>167884590

I've been getting Crimson Tide and Hunt For Red October mixed up since whenever the latter came out. And I feel pretty guilty because I told multiple people one the channel there was a Crimson Tide reaction way before it actually happened.

Joe

Oops, film was 1998 not 2003.

JohnnyUtah

Ok, time for The Bourne Films and I don't care what anybody says, they're all worth watching!

JL_83

after the way y’all reacted to Crimson Tide (also directed by Tony Scott, RIP) I figured this one would be an enjoyable watch

Rick Rodriguez
>>167885996

I remember there being a fun fan theory that Gene's characters in Conversation and Enemy were the same. Obviously, not literally but a fun idea. Like Connery is the same in The Rock and Bond.

Jayson Phillips

My mom always said "You cant get a bad movie out of Jerry Bruckheimer." You guys have to watch Coyote Ugly...another Great film!

🚩
>>167888914

I always feel like somebody's watching me, and I have no privacy (oh, oh, oh) - Rockwell

David Patterson

This film scared the H-E-double hockey sticks out of me when I first watched it. Now it's real life.

David Kent

The congressman was played by Jason Robards who also played the admiral at the end of Crimson Tide.

D. T. Nelson

This movie is sort of an unofficial sequel to the other Gene Hackman movie, The Conversation.

🚩
>>167895020

If Cassie could be cloned, she could watch all of our movies. To paraphrase Oprah: You get a Cassie! You get a Cassie! You get a Cassie! Everybody gets a Cassie! But nooooo, we cant do that, can we? Science, it's all your fault! I hate you! I hate you! And I hate your baby!

Ted Whalen

This has always been one of my favorite Gene Hackman movies ( this movie has a great overall cast).

djKENTO
>>167885996

oh it’s 100% on purpose. They use the same photos of him in both, he wears one fo the same outfits, there are homages all over his hide out that are related to the conversation. It’s very much on purpose.

TheSingulatarian
>>167885996

She should just watch 1 Gene Hackman movie a month. She'll be busy for a while. He only made a couple of duds.

Ry Jo

maybe they should watch the Americans TV show

TheSingulatarian
>>167884975

The Peacemaker is probably top ten for one of the dumbest endings in cinema history. They would both be dead and half the island of Manhattan would be contaminated with plutonium.

Canadianant

I remember seeing this one in theatre. The actress you weren't sure of that played Rachal was Lisa Bonet. She is known for being on the Cosby Show and the show different world. She was married to Lenny Kravitz and they have a daughter Zoey Kravitz who is also an actor now. This movie was alot of fun and of course gene hackman was great . It is amazing when you think that this movie came out in '98 and was talking about privacy issues and almost 27 years later privacy doesn't exist. The thing that's nuts too is that this was pre 9/11. Gather interesting one is for all the Fall from Grace that he's had now, you have to remember what a huge star Will Smith was at the time. He had a massive run of hits.

Andrew Ramos

I haven't watched this movie in over ten years. It's crazy that this popped up now because I just got back from training with Motorola on their license plate reading cameras. The amount of data they have from these cameras is staggering. Not only do law enforcement vehicles constantly scan and save license plates as they drive but tow trucks and repossession vehicles, and even Fedex vehicles are constantly scanning our plates on the street and while parked. They can search a plate and it will tell you what time of day you are likely to be at a particular address and even what other license plates are often seen with yours. Outside of the U.S. they get the IMEI of cell phones via their wifi transmission and pair what phones belong to which license plates. Between the law enforcement database and the commercial database (whose data is sold to police and companies) they have over a billion scans. When we searched the vehicles of two of the techs in the class they had scan records as early as 2009 for their personal vehicles. All the techs in the class looked at each other knowing that the data Motorola, law enforcement, and companies are collecting is beyond invasive. And this data collection is peanuts compared to the surveillance depicted in the movie. You can only imagine what the higher echelons of government are capable of today. And when you consider who's in charge of the government at the moment it becomes really scary.

Rick Williams

Great Movie. It does make you think about how they can see and hear pretty much whatever they want to. And how they can take your life away and just destroy your world. It is scary. Great reaction Cassie and Carly. We need more movies like this, please.

Mike Lemon

This (the surveillance state) is basically what Edward Snowden exposed and why he is either a traitor or a hero depending on who you ask and what day you ask it. And before anybody gets all antsy to break Rule 3 (no politics) it doesn't depend on Party.

Anthony Carlson
>>167884590

Sam Fisher: Talk, but talk quietly. Guard: I'll tell you anything. I'm the biggest coward you've ever met. Sam Fisher: That's quite a claim. Guard: I've already wet myself. Sam Fisher: Well, then you've made the top ten. Where's Zherkezhi? Guard: Somewhere at the far end. In the tea house maybe. Sam Fisher: All right, I think it's time for you to take a nap now. Guard: I'm such a coward. You should kill me anyway, I dont deserve to live. Sam Fisher: You are pretty spineless, actually. Guard: I'm so ashamed. I love stuff like this 😂

Steve Colletti
>>167898976

Everything electronic is compromised. You can only limit the degree to which it impacts you.

Just Plain Bob
>>167899262

Very very true. Estimates are that the FBI has files on as many as 1 in 3 Americans. They even have files on former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt. And it’s not a political issue in terms of Democrats v Republicans. Both sides seem fine with it, particularly when their party controls the Executive Branch.

aarswft

This film is interesting because John Voight is actual more evil in real life than the character he plays in the movie.

Dean Holt
>>167894023

Tony Scott was really underrated, just love all the movies I’ve seen he’s done.

Mike Lemon
>>167898976

You had a good point going then had to ruin it with the last sentence. Go read about what some of the recent others who have been "in charge of the government" have done.

Chris Thom
>>167900337

No idea what he did or what he's like but I did always wonder why Angelina won't talk to him.

Dean Holt
>>167885996

There’s an excellent and interesting movie Will Smith did called Concussion. It’s based on a true story about a doctor investigating concussions on NFL players.

Thoko
>>167900337

I dunno man, he was pretty damn evil on Seinfeld when he bit Kramer's arm

Chris Thom
>>167894023

Aww Tony Scott he was a solid director. So sad how he died. RIP.

Thoko
>>167899262

This is true, but Snowden was focused only on the surveillance part of the problem. A much bigger problem is the abuses that the feds gets away with, such a blackmailing of politicians and celebrities through people like Jeffrey Epstein and (allegedly) P Diddy. Ever since J Edgar Hoover, the FBI has engaged in blackmail

Michael West

This is such a good move. Lots of excitement and makes you think. Two other movies along these lines are RED staring Bruce Willis and Morgan Freeman among others and "Safe House" with Denzel Washington and Ryan Reynolds.

Alex

Cassie, you should check out the movie "Snowden" (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3774114/) and/or the documentary "Citizenfour" (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4044364/) since you found the question at the end regarding privacy and security interesting.

Clay F
>>167899262

1 in 3 Americans are in the FBI database because 1 in 3 Americans have been arrested.

Dean Holt

Well that my Sunday afternoon movie sorted, though there would both like this. If you both what to watch more movies like this I’d recommend, US Marshals (it’s kinda of the follow up to The Fugitive) The Negotiator (with Sam Jackson) Double Jeopardy (Tommy Lee Jones & Ashley Judd) Sleeping with the Enemy (Julia Roberts) The Bone Collector (Denzel Washington) Disclosure (Demi Moore & Michael Douglas) Dead Calm (Sam Neil & Nicole Kidman) But the next Gene Hackman movie I’d love to see you react to is Bat*21. It also stars Danny Glover and it’s a very similar story to Behind Enemy Lines, but this was made in the 80s and doesn’t have Owen Wilson trying to be an action hero lol.

Thoko
>>167899262

Clay, this is true. But its also true that many arrests are for using drugs. In many other western countries like Australia where I live, you don't go to jail for being an addict. Also, the US government has some responsibility for allowing the pharmaceutical industry to create the opioid epidemic. And many decades before that, the US government had some involvement with the opium trade from china. The government allows or creates the problem then arrests the victims who then work for slave wages in prison.

Uncle Phoenix

I definitely think that Cassie and Carly would love, “Absolute Power” (1997).

Mike Lemon
>>167899262

"you don't go to jail for being an addict." You don't in the U.S. either (generally). Those "he's in jail for possession" cases are mostly plea bargains for a different crime.

Thoko
>>167898976

Yeah that last statement was super naive. There is no good side in congress or in the white house.

TheSingulatarian

Scott Cann James Cann's son is one of the goons.

Just Plain Bob
>>167899262

Arrests do not account for the number of Americans in the FBI files. Reporting arrests/crimes is voluntary on the part of police departments, meaning that there is not a direct correlation between the number of arrests each year and the number of people in the files. Some departments report everything to the FBI, some report nothing and many report some crimes (usually violent crimes) but not others. There are many many Americans in the files that were never arrested for anything.

TheSingulatarian

The ladies need to watch Midnight Cowboy sometimes.

JPDotCom23

His role in this movie was a tip of the hat to 'The Conversation', a 1974 movie he starred in with Francis Ford Coppola writing and directing, about a paranoid, secretive surveillance expert has a crisis of conscience when he suspects that the couple he is spying on will be murdered. Great movie.

Clay F

I liked it. "Do chicks dig lingerie?" I thought the action overall was good. Public surveillance is just a fact of life now. Massive amount of data (e.g., image data) collected. Image or audio surveillance in the home without a warrant is vastly less than what paranoid freaks think. The massive shootings at the end were brutal. The casting of Jack Black seemed kind of odd. As someone commented below, Rachel is played by Lisa Bonet who made it big on "The Cosby Show" (1984-1992). I am going to check out Black Doves. A good movie with a young Jon Voight (and Dustin Hoffman) is "Midnight Cowboy" (1969) [AFI Top 100]. Emily (NSA agent) stood out to me because she is played by Anna Gunn who is Walter White's wife in Breaking Bad. When Brill was explaining about 1980 when he helped the Afghans in the Soviet invasion/occupation of Afghanistan, reminded me of an excellent movie on that topic: CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR (2007). Based on true story. Charlie Wilson (Tom Hanks) was my US representative in east Texas. Julia Roberts is impressive, playing a unique roll for her.

Matt Jamison

They were confusing Lisa Bonet with Tessa Thompson. Probably because of them being more familiar with ZoĂŤ Kravitz who is Lisa Bonet's daughter.

TheSingulatarian

Cassie didn't even notice Scott Evil.

Above Average Dave
>>167884975

My DNA ID is so off today. Thanks! That also Scott Caan with the andro-neck and the matching flattop. I won’t mention who his dad is🤪

Carol Rocha

Yes u really should watch Will Smith’s “SEVEN POUNDS”. You and Carley.

TheSingulatarian

The potato chip bag makes a Faraday Cage that blocks the electronic signals.

Just Plain Bob
>>167899262

In addition to the means of surveillance that most are aware of, back in the early 90s the Feds got caught using heat imaging equipment to spy on people in their homes without a warrant. The case found its way to the Supreme Court in the early 2000s, who decided (rightly IMO) that such surveillance violated Fourth Amendment protections. Point being, if there’s a way for the government to bypass people’s rights, look for them to try it. Here’s the opinion for anyone that’s interested. https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/99-8508.ZO.html

John A

I had forgotten how fast pace this movie was until it began and then I remembered lol. Good movie, love Hackman great actor. I also did not realize how many known actors were in this movie.

Clay F

Google AI said the screen time for Gene Hackman is 25 minutes of the 2h 20min run time. But I think more like 35-40 minutes of screen time for Hackman. Granted he wasn't much in the first hour of the movie, but was prominent in the 2nd half of the movie. I think made sense to include the movie in the poll. He gave an excellent performance. I do prefer his performances in The French Connection and Mississippi Burning -- he was a lead in those. R.I.P.

Chris Thom
>>167905781

I totally think of Zoe and Lisa as the same person. I don't know if they even look that much alike. But the vibes feel very similar.

Rose
>>167904043

I had just started a job with Nielsen Entertainment years ago in Hollywood and while driving on Sunset I saw his son Scott walking from The Los Angeles Film School. I was at a stop sign and he was there walking right in front of me. When he saw me he said “Hi.” I was a bit speechless and starstruck. At that time I had lil crush on him while he was on the tv show Hawaii Five-0.

John Drake

Freaky that Jon voight character's birthday was 9/11

Stephen Dias

Good movie! I did not see that final showdown coming.

Mike Lemon

A Will Smith movie that might dethrone Hitch for Carly is The Legend of Bagger Vance (2000). Period golf movie (1930-ish) that isn't really about golf with Matt Damon and a cameo, and last movie, by Jack Lemmon (Grumpy Old Men).

Brian's Dog

Will Smith's little dog was kind of mean. That was the Mom's dog for sure.

Thoko
>>167899262

Maybe they are plea bargains. But In America, people are offered a deal of "go to trial and possibly get 25 years" or take this plea bargain and go to jail for a couple years. Even if you're innocent of the main crime, you will take the plea bargain in most cases because few people can afford a competent attorney. In other words, the cops probably have insufficient evidence of the main crime, so it is not accurate to imply that the person is guilty of a major crime.

John Deardurff

Most of the movies I would suggest like this, I think you have watched. I would say "Spy Game" with Brad Pitt and Robert Redford is a close match. Also, "The Accountant" with Ben Affleck is amazing.

Thoko
>>167899072

Yes we do need more like this, especially with Carly too

Mike Lemon
>>167899262

"the cops probably have insufficient evidence of the main crime," There is enough evidence that a District Attorney ("the state") has a reasonable chance of winning. "so it is not accurate to imply that the person is guilty of a major crime." Nobody implied that.

Eddie Perkins

"Where is Gene Hackman?" That had me laughing. I must admit he made the movie much better. It's a good movie.

Mojo One Thousand
>>167895020

"Coyote Ugly" would be a re-watch, it is marked as seen from what I can tell for Cassie, not sure about Carly.

Larry Darrell
>>167887511

She knows who Barry Pepper is. Forget which film it was, but she recognized him in another reaction by name. Maybe there was familiar face overload in this and she missed him. 🤷‍♂️

Larry Darrell
>>167896177

and Jason Robards played Washington Post managing editor, Ben Bradlee in All the President’s Men (1976), and… senior lawyer, Charles Wheeler, who fired Andrew Beckett in Philadelphia (1993).

REDR58
>>167904653

This movie is a sequel to The Conversation in all but name. He plays the same character here as in that movie but for a name difference. A photo of him from The Conversation even appears in this movie.

Larry Darrell
>>167898520

Jon Voight’s character, Thomas Brian Reynolds, Assistant Director of the NSA… the man who murdered a Congressman… the man who is in charge of the whole surveillance, cover-up and smear operation, was born on… “9/11”/1940

Thoko
>>167908842

Its unwise to trust an AI for very obscure questions. AI isn't really what it is marketed as. They just take everything on the internet, and feed it into a special kind of data base which they fraudulently renamed "neurons" to pretend it is like a brain. If the answer to your question was not commonly found on the internet, the AI will not be able to give you an accurate answer and will just make up a fake answer. And if the answers that are on the internet are wrong, then the AI will give you that wrong answer as if it were a fact. The AI will NOT watch the movie and count how many minutes Gene Hackman was on the screen.

Mojo One Thousand

I have always enjoyed this movie, but I am glad that "The French Connection" was also watched, as this is a Will Smith movie that also has Gene Hackman. I watched a few interviews of people that worked him in days after he passed and the best compliment they gave him was "you would never catch him acting", that is how authentic his portrayals of characters were. And because he has retired a while ago, I hadn't watched any of his movies in a while, it has reinforced why he was one of actors , if not, my favourite actor. Something I thought was interesting about this was I couldn't think of Will Smith movie that was on the channel, but pretty much every other character, bar a couple, I could name at least one reaction that had been in. Folks like Jason Robards, Stuart Wilson, Seth Green, Tom Sizemore, Scott Caan, Jake Busey, Bohdi Elfman, James Le Gros, Regina King, Barry Pepper, Jack Black, Loren Dean, Gabriel Byrne and obviously Jon Voight and Gene Hackman, even the lingerie store assistant is in "Casino Royale" and the NSA boss was "Silence of the Lambs". Outside of Will Smith I couldn't think of any for Jason Lee, Lisa Bonet, Jamie Kennedy and Anna Gunn, but I feel like for a couple of these probably have popped up somewhere. It is probably why Cassie felt like everyone was familiar, it was an intersection of actors she has seen in a bunch of other stuff. I did think that Jason Lee would be recognised from "Alvin and the Chipmunks", but for me he is always going to be "Brody" from Kevin Smith's "Mallrats", and he was also in the TV show "My Name Is Earl" with fellow View Askew productions alumni Ethan Suplee, whom was just in "Cold Mountain" as "Pangle". I hadn't seen this in a while, but I thought it was pretty ironic that Jon Voight's character ("Reynolds") had his birthday on 9/11. In real life, the events of that day in 2001 lead to the Patriot Act, which would have lead to his character getting pretty much what he wanted, without any of the events of this movie being required. But that would have still been afew years away from when this movie was set.

Mojo One Thousand
>>167896177

Forgot about "All the President's Men"... I think because I saw something about "12 Angry Men" recently, Martin Balsam and Jack Warden are the ones I think about from the Post in that movie.

Shad Kanyak

I'm going to be in the minority on this one, but I hated it. It was beyond convoluted. It got stupid quick and they just kept elevating the stupid.

Carol_White
>>167916110

Horrible dialogue. Too many dutch angles. Computers that beep. Too much blue filter. Will Smith has the strongest plot armor in Hollywood. Gene Hackman phoning it in, sad to say. Too many quick edits. Larry King cashes a paycheck, reminds us that this is a politically relevant movie. Jason Robards blue balls.

Cole Jennett
>>167915369

She said the same thing about Jason Lee in Almost Famous, with her identifier being Alvin and the Chipmunks

Clay F
>>167915369

I remember that in her reaction to Almost Famous with respect to Jason Lee, she mentioned Alvin and the Chipmunks (a movie I have never paid attention to). To me, Jason Lee will always be the lead singer in Stillwater in Almost Famous.

Mojo One Thousand
>>167915369

"Almost famous"! I knew Jason Lee had to be in something on channel... forgot that was already seen.

Clay F
>>167908842

I effectively use AI all the time, while understanding its limitations and recognizing its inaccuracies. I've written many patent applications dealing with AI including neural networks and machine learning. Your comment of "a special kind of data base" seems misplaced. Your comment that "they fraudulently renamed 'neurons' to pretend it is like a brain" is weird and irrelevant.

Ben Schwartz
>>167904999

I LOVE Charlie Wilson's War. One of my favorite movies. Brilliant cast and writing.

JarHead0351

Now for Spy Games with Brad Pitt and Robert Redford

Thoko
>>167908842

It is not misplaced at all. A database is a system where you put data in at one time and retrieve it later. My point is that the neural network is not a system that has some kind of agency. It is limited by whatever data and training it was subjected to. Its not weird at all to point out that the one trillion dollar boondoggle was able to be financed by pretending to be something that it is not. Its extremely relevant considering that the neural network's lies have caused other potential scientific pathways to be suppressed. Instead of the sciences focusing on scientific discovery, our society is pouring almost trillions into infrastructure. The gaslighting that has been done to make our society believe in something that is essentially a science fiction version of our future and progress, is damaging to science and the world. Its only irrelevant to you because you are trapped in groupthink.

Thoko
>>167906718

I totally forgot about that film. Its one that really makes you think.

Thoko
>>167908842

AI marks the death of computer science as it basically violated the principles of computer science. The neural network is literally an elegant form of brute force search which is the nastiest, ugliest approach you can take in computer science. We've just taken the concept of optimising computational complexity and thrown it over a cliff. And I think it says a hell of a lot that most AI "experts" are crappy programmers or not even programmers at all. Which means they do not properly understand what a computer is or how to get it to work optimally

JPDotCom23

I thought it was pretty cool when they used an old pic of Hackman from the movie 'The Conversation' for this movie.

Darren Harrison

You have to realize this was made before 9/11, which led to the Patriot Act

Scottish Joe

Great movie and reaction..... definitely a rollercoaster of a movie, I was shattered after watching it for the first time,

YodatheHobbit

Haven't seen this movie since the early 2000s. Gonna start it now. It's true! I did like Hitch! It's also true, Hitch was not in my top 5 Will Smith films. Also, I think the last thing you may have seen Owen Wilson in was in Loki(short, whited haired dude, Mobius, which is honestly my favorite character he's ever played.

Keith Brown

Director Tony Scott passed away in 2012 directed the first "Top Gun" plus many action movies was the brother of director Ridley Scott you should do some more Scott Brothers movies !

Larry Darrell

Enemy of the State is a decently enjoyable thriller. I wouldn’t say it was the best film of anyone involved. Not the worst either. Gene Hackman was certainly the best thing in the film. You said this film reminded you of The French Connection. Well then, The Conversation (1974) does really need to be watched then. Gene Hackman is basically playing the same character from The Conversation in Enemy of the State. The Conversation, a much better film on the same subject, starring Hackman, written and directed by Francis Ford Coppola, who also wrote and directed The Godfather, as well as The Rainmaker (1997), a John Grisham novel turned to film that Cassie would love, also starring Jon Voight. Carly said she only knows Jon Voight at the age he is in this film. How about checking out some young Jon Voight films… Midnight Cowboy (1969) Deliverance (1972) The Odessa File (1974) Coming Home (1978) Runaway Train (1985) Actually, these Jon Voight films maybe should only be for Cassie. Well, Carly could do The Odessa File. But the others… hopefully one day. I’ll just say… I hope Carly has found someone that can take care of her. (No offense ;-) “They can’t even do that now” was the response to the computer rotating the 2D security camera footage 75 degrees, in order to see the other side of the bag. Maybe not as effective as in the film, but with the fast advancements in AI of late, Still Images are able to come to life and move like videos. 2D images can be turned into 3D models. AI can predict and hypothesize what a 2D image would look like anywhere from any number of angles from a fixed point. Again, how accurate it would be is another story, but it definitely looks very realistic. And if you follow the rule of, whatever technology is released to the public, the government and military are at least 10 years ahead. What they’re actually capable of now, we will probably find out much, much later. And of course we know that our cellphones are constantly listening to us. How many times have you seen ads on your phone relating to subjects you were talking about with your family, friends or co-workers? Seeing ads for coffins pop up on your phone after a long talk with a co-worker about her father’s funeral plans was really weird and eye opening. If your phone is already listening to you, how hard would it be for some agency to tap into that speaker when ever they wanted… or turn on the camera on your computer… or tap into your home security camera. Yep… a little scary.

Clay F
>>167908842

AI centric databases increase accuracy of AI. People who confuse an artificial neuron with a biological neuron are ignorant or naive. The term artificial neuron (mathematical function) is merely a convenient label as a core unit of artificial neural networks. There is nothing insidious about it — there is no grand deceptive scheme to fraudulently make people believe that an artificial neural network is the same as a biological brain. Only dumb people would believe that anyway.

LittleGalaxyBoy
>>167884287

Facts. Hell, I just typed my name and city into ChatGPT, and that alone brought up my Instagram (which I can't get into), along with a recent news report that, unknowingly to me, featured my name in it. It was linked to my university and a project I was part of that got shortlisted for an award, which is how I found out about it last month. It's kind of terrifying.

Ted Whalen
>>167916110

The one part of the movie that I don’t like is that there is no organized crime/mafia in DC. There is certainly a lot a drug related crimes/murders, but it is not by the MOB (one of my older brothers is a DC homicide detective and he always laughs at this part of the movie).

Chris Retzlaff

I've seen this movie a hundred times, but watching the tension in your reaction was giving me anxiety......and it didn't help that I finally saw the day that Denise Huxtable (Lisa Bonet) wasn't recognized.....married to Lenny Kravitz then Jason Momoa...mother to Zoe Kravitz....great video

Cole Jennett
>>167915369

I’m with you though, he will always be Brody or Banky from the Kevin Smith movies

Clay F
>>167920258

I have nostalgia for Spy Game (2001). Cassie has implied she would like to see it because of that pairing.

Chris Retzlaff
>>167916110

I can understand your opinion, Hackman phoning it in is a bit of a stretch One of my favorite scenes is fleeing the warehouse Robert Clayton Dean: What the hell is happening? Brill: I blew up the building. Robert Clayton Dean: Why? Brill: Because you made a phone call

Chris Retzlaff
>>167905781

It's funny to think about, Tessa Thompson can give some Denise Huxtable vibes. Still funny to think they didn't know her from being married to Kravitz then Momoa

Clay F
>>167911122

I have nostalgia for Spy Game (2001). I really like "The Accountant"(2016), except for one aspect.

Chris Retzlaff
>>167939023

What.....why not..great movie, Ronny Cox, Ned Beatty, Turd Ferguson.....dueling banjos!!

Joe

I liked the performances and story...my beef is the structure. One hour for the setup and all that initial chasing around was too much for me. I'm like, just get on with it (haha).

Joe
>>167939023

IMO, she should definitely watch "Deliverance", excellent film.

Clay F

I like Hitch (2005) ok. I accepted “I, Robot” (2004) despite the hatred by Asimov fans. I liked ok “I am Legend” (2007) (my son loved it). Not a fan of Bad Boys (1995) [I like Bad Boys (1983)]. My favorite Will Smith movies: -Six Degrees of Separation (1993) (w/Donald Sutherland) -King Richard (2022) -Ali (2002) -The Pursuit of Happyness (2006) I need to give these two another try: [1] MIB (1997) (good reviews); and [2] Independence Day (1996) (watch along w/reaction). Been 25+ years for both – I don’t really remember them.

Ted Whalen
>>167939023

100% agree with that…..Deliverance should be off the list of movies to watch.

Darren Harrison

What I am surprised by is that Cassie failed to identify Scott Evil from the “Austin Powers” movies. All throughout the reaction I expected her to recognize him.

Larry Darrell
>>167939023

Agreed. Deliverance should definitely be watched on this channel. It is a Very Excellent film. It’s a Classic. And I would love for Carly to watch Deliverance. But if she can’t watch a Netflix thriller starring Keira Knightley by herself, alone in the house, or even questions being able to watch THIS film by herself, alone in the house… big part of me wants to believe she’s putting on an act. Because another part of me wants to be scared for her and that seems ridiculous. I’m only half kidding…

Rose
>>167884287

When the full force of the government targets you it’s terrifying. Technology has outpaced us and AI has influenced every part of human life. The AI war/race between the U.S. and China is bigger than any of us can imagine.

YodatheHobbit

I remember it being a thriller, but it was more suspenseful than I remember it being plus I don't remember him meeting Gene Hackman so late in the movie. It's also possibly Seth Green's first "tech guy in the chair/van" role. He did almost the same thing in The Italian Job, maybe some other movies, I'm not sure.

Chris Thom
>>167923369

Was just thinking about that. Would think it would've came after. But I guess the country was more receptive to surveillance with such big terrorist acts. Or people weren't speaking out as much.

Andrew Rose

One of Will Smith's more underrated movies I think was "Collateral Beauty". Kind of a ridiculous title but a heartbreaking and endearing story.

Chris Thom
>>167939023

Been back and forth on Deliverance. For this channel I mean. But it is a fairly iconic film. And she knows Burt Reynolds a bit by now.

Clay F
>>167975239

The movie depicts that New Orleans prosecutor Jim Garrison, portrayed by actor Kevin Costner, shows the film to a jury as definitive proof of a second gunman. He describes the motion of Kennedy's head ..."back, and to the left" ... as evidence that shots had been fired by someone other than Oswald. But that was a fabrication. Stone mixed historical footage with new footage he shot himself (creating confusion about what the Zapruder film actually showed) to support his embellished courtroom scenes.

Mike Lemon
>>167975239

@Clay- I know you hate other people enjoying the movie but how about not spoiling it?

Rod Reavern

This was a great spy-thriller, and I'm glad that Cassie chose to watch "The French Connection" too because it's a better tribute to Gene Hackman's memory because it's the role he won his Best Actor Oscar. It's fascinating that this movie was made in 1998, and the Big Brother goons were monologuing about the NEED for the Surveillance State 3 years before 9/11. The tragic irony is that the 9/11 terrorists were on the authorities' radar, but they didn't STOP the attacks, demonstrating that surveillance alone is pointless -- it's just an invasion of every citizen's privacy and violation of their constitutional rights, which used to matter in America. I'm grateful, now more than ever, not to live in America. Anyway... my favourite part of the movie was the ending, how Will Smith's character bluffed the bad guys into going to the mob boss' restaurant, knowing that it was under FBI surveillance AND the mob boss would never cooperate or back down. Also, the gov't goons were out of their element and had to go in blind -- they couldn't use any of their surveillance tricks or gadgets. It was a brilliant plan. Arguably a little contrived that Will Smith's character had a blackmail tape that the mob boss wanted, facilitating the misunderstanding, but that's solid writing. I'm uncertain if Cassie and Carly caught on to this, but earlier in th movie when Jon Voight's character greenlit the "standard training op" against Will Smith's character, he requested two "Humpty Dumpties." I'm certain that "Humpty Dumpty" in this context means a fall guy -- meaning an unwitting pazzi who will take the blame. The two fall guys were Jake Busey and Scott Caan's characters; both were dishonourably discharged military personnel serving time in military prison. They were both kinda dumb, blindly followed orders because of their military backgrounds, and knew they'd be sent back to prison if they didn't play along, which made them the perfect pawns and expendable assets if and when the "STO" went bad. The irony is that the climactic shootout in the mob restaurant was kicked off by Jake Busey's character blundering into the standoff with a SMG and yelling -- so the unwitting fall guy took them ALL down! "Enemy of the State" was a great movie, but it's a shame that Hollywood shining a light onto the American surveillance state did nothing to stop it. Oh well, sucks to be you!

Clay F
>>167939023

+1 for "Midnight Cowboy" (1969) (w/Dustin Hoffman) [AFI Top 100] +1 for "Deliverance" (1972) (w/Burt Reynolds) [Big Fish (2003) has subtle nod to Deliverance (1972)]

Thoko
>>167908842

Umm no. For the last 100 years it has been the overtly stated goal of computer science to create something on the same level as human life. It is not dumb to believe that the guys who spent 50 years saying they were "just about to accomplish it" have gotten close to accomplishing it. Anybody who disagrees with a leading scientist is mocked and ridiculed as anti-science or a flat earther or something. What you're saying is completely ignoring the context of the situation.The vast majority of people know literally nothing about how a computer works and are willing to listen to what scientists tell them. We were brought up to trust the experts. Anybody who calls people dumb for trusting the experts has a very bad perspective on life and are probably part of the problem.

Thoko
>>167908842

I'm going to leave this conversation now because you are arguing from ignorance. I offer arguments and you basically respond with "nuh uh, nobody is doing that. trust me bro". This is a waste of my time

Clay F
>>167908842

Thoko, you are the ignorant one my friend. Conspiracy theorists should be mocked and ridiculed. A neural network is limited by the data and it's ongoing training. A human brain is millions of times more complex. I was merely saying that only dumb people would believe that an artificial neural network is the same as a biological brain. Non-biological neural networks have been around for ages and utilized effectively. The scientists, engineers, mathematicians, programmers, executives, etc. applying such artificial neural networks know that such are not the same as a biological brain. The thought is absolutely ridiculous. Again, only gullible ignorant people would believe that an articificial neural network is the same as a biological (human) brain. Articificial neural networks (mathematical expressions), while complex, are nothing like the complexity of a human brain. No informed person thinks otherwise. If dumb people want to believe that a neural network (AI, machine learning) is the same as a human brain, that is their problem.

Rod Reavern
>>167956645

Speaking for myself, Will Smith movies have lost ALL their appeal. The only reason I watched "Enemy of the State" was to honour GENE HACKMAN's memory. I sincerely hope Cassie does NOT react to another Will Smith movie for a LONG time.

Nick Hewett

Here are some more thrillers you will like. 3 Days of the Condor (1975) Robert Redford The Package (1989) Gene Hackman Breakdown (1997) Kurt Russell The Net (1995) Sandra Bullock

Rose
>>167887511

I guess it’s time for Billy Crystal’s baseball movie “61*”- loved Barry Pepper’s portrayal of Roger Maris.

Rose
>>167939023

Larry - your reference to smartphones reminds me of my sister who’s a realtor. One of her clients was from Silicon Valley. She used to have the annoying habit of always talking to Siri. Big tech client told her he never uses voice control or talks to his tech because of the security and privacy issues. He basically said, “We hear you.” My sister was alarmed and told her daughter about it - but my niece was like, “Mom - we already know that. Get with the times!” I wonder if Cassie & Carly has ever watched the classic “Unsolved Mysteries” with Robert Stack. I could never watch it alone - especially home alone. They might enjoy the episode “Texas Most Wanted” with a very young Matthew McConaughey making his acting debut. He even referenced the show as his first big break in Hollywood. Now I got to watch “Deliverance.”

Chris Thom
>>167939023

Unsolved Mysteries was a banger back in the day. Then Dateline came and ate it's lunch. Those shows actually provided a lot of leads in those cases. I know there was another big one but I'm blanking on what it was called.

Chris Thom
>>168017791

Does The Net hold up? Haven't seen that one since it came out on VHS.

Chris Thom
>>167905781

I get Tessa Thompson mixed up with like six other actresses constantly. I don't know if that's racist or not. But she was good on West World.

Chris Thom
>>167902378

Haven't thought of The Negotiator in a while. Remember that being one of the better thrillers from the 90's.

Chris Thom
>>167899262

Such mixed feelings about the war on drugs. Yes people buy and sell the chemicals...but it's everyone's individual choice to buy. Literally have NEVER had someone push drugs on me (well maybe pot, but barely). Probably because they were too expensive. Have tried many though and my thought is almost always "people's lives get ruined over THIS??" It's a bit ridiculous. A lot of the desperation involved seems to stems from the prohibition more than the chemicals themselves.

TheSingulatarian
>>167906737

A Faraday Cage is a real thing. Would a potato chip bag be enough in real life. Don't know. I do have a pouch I keep my key fob in for my truck. Works on the same principle. I can still start my truck with the pouch in my pocket, but it may cut down of the range of the fob making it harder for the fob info to be stolen.

Clarence Newman
>>167939023

The only reason to ban Deliverance would be that one scene, and that one scene is not reason enough to ban Deliverance because otherwise it's a superb story of survival in a harsh environment. Cassie has seen a lot worse.

Larry Darrell
>>167939023

Unsolved Mysteries and Rescue 911 were intense watches back in the day. Scared the crap out of me when I was a kid. There was an episode of Rescue 911 where a kid was sitting on the escalator at the mall, and his shirt got caught on it. That scene is ingrained in my head. I think about it every time I get on an escalator. I don’t even like to step on the part where the step goes under. I step over it.

Milton William Burray (edited)

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2025-03-18 10:45:05 The film could have been better without WIll Smith. Imagine Harrison Ford in the roll, who actually portrayed vulnerability instead of Smith who never gives the impression he feels endangered
2025-03-17 17:36:39 The film could have been better without WIll Smith. Imagine Harrison Ford in the role, who actually portrayed vulnerability, instead of Smith who never gives the impression he feels endangered

The film could have been better without WIll Smith. Imagine Harrison Ford in the role, who actually portrayed vulnerability, instead of Smith who never gives the impression he feels endangered

Dean Holt
>>167937506

Theirs only two movie Tony Scott done that I have seen yet, all the others I have seen I really enjoy. I personally think he’s really underrated and very rarely talked about when it comes to directors.

2-Can
>>167989749

In the US we have these Constitutional protections which we are arguing over and there will no doubt be the occasional mess as the pendulum swings back and forth. Other countries have it easier, because they don’t have such notions and provisions as are found in our Constitution to limit their actions. Since you don’t have these protections, and our Constitutional rights don’t apply to you, you can rest secure in the knowledge that we are surveilling you - in coordination with, and/or in addition to, your own government (as well as others). Now who does it suck to be?

Rod Reavern
>>167989749

lol. It's hilarious that you're so proud to live in the American Surveillance State (A.S.S.) 😂🤣

Clay F

Suggested Thrillers • The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009) • The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011) (Daniel Craig) • The Place Beyond the Pines (2012) (Ryan Gosling) • Hanna (2014) (Saoirse Ronan) • Gone Baby Gone (2007) (Michelle Monaghan) • Conclave (2024) (Ralph Fiennes) • Les Misérables (1998) (Uma Thurman) • The Count of Monte Cristo (2024) • Escape from New York (1981) (Kurt Russell) • Freaks (2019) • Emily the Criminal (2022) (Aubrey Plaza) • Enola Holmes (2020)

Clay F
>>168017791

I don't think so, but Sandra Bullock is pretty. +1 for Three Days of the Condor (1975) +1 for Breakdown (1997)

Andrew Rose
>>167964683

I don't know about everyone else but I love when you do that.. I imagine I am not alone either Cassie!

Thoko
>>168122209

The Count of Monte Cristo isn't really a thriller. Its a historical action/adventure.

Joe
>>168061877

Ford was 56 in 1998, too old to do all that running, LOL.

Clay F
>>168122209

Thoko fail. Plainly a thriller. The Google page for The Count of Monte Cristo (2024) gives the genre as “Adventure/Thriller.”

Milton William Burray
>>168061877

Yeah I meant younger Ford, someone who could bring an authenticity to the role rather than Will Smith's wise-cracking action character that consistently dispels the sense of threat

Bill Maurer
>>168122209

She and Carly already seen "The Count of Monte Cristo" with Jim Caviezel

Clay F
>>168122209

Yeah, I've watched that reaction. What I list above is the 2024 "The Count of Monte Cristo"

Thoko
>>168122209

Google has been trash for years. They were recently recommending recipes that contain gasoline in pasta for example. At least Wikipedia is created by real humans and Wikipedia agrees with me. Also, I have read the book. It does not have the structure or dynamics of a thriller. And neither does the film.

Thoko
>>168061877

I think Harrison Ford is a bit overrated. He often brings a similar cockiness to many of his roles and not much emotional depth.

Thoko
>>168122209

I mean honestly, what kind of "thriller" has the main character stuck in the same place for like 10 years or more?

Clay F
>>168122209

Google is one of the most sophisticated companies out there. Both the book and the film clearly have the structure and dynamics of a thriller. The two directors of The Count of Monte Cristo (2024) called the movie a "thriller". The producer (Rassam) called the movie a "thriller". The PiB reaction library (link above) gives the genre for The Count of Monte Cristo (2002) as including "Thriller". Are you going to message Cassie to say her team is wrong? From Wikipedia: "The Count of Monte Cristo (1844) is a swashbuckling revenge thriller ..." You not understanding how the main character being stuck in the same place for 10+ years contributes to the movie beng a thriller shows you don't know what you are talking about. Thriller aspects: The story features suspenseful moments, a mystery surrounding Dantès's imprisonment, and a plot of betrayal and conspiracy. The Count's mysterious identity, his sudden wealth, and his manipulative schemes create a sense of mystery and intrigue, further enhancing the thriller elements of the story. For The Count of Monte Cristo (2024): --IMDb = "Thriller" --plex = "Thriller" --JustWatch = "Thriller" --New York Times (Dec 19, 2024) = "Thriller" --RogerEbert.com = "revenge thriller" --Metacritic = "Thriller" Thriller throughout the movie = elements of suspense, revenge, and mystery. The subterfuge. Secret plans. Intrigue. The false imprisonment creates a sense of suspense and mystery. Thriller aspects = The protagonist's imprisonment, daring escape, and subsequent quest for revenge. His eventual escape, aided by a fellow prisoner and a hidden treasure, adds to the thriller elements. After escaping and discovering the treasure, he transforms into the Count and uses his newfound wealth and power to seek revenge against those who wronged him. This pursuit of vengeance, with its intricate schemes and manipulations = thriller element of suspense and danger.

Milton William Burray
>>168061877

Ford isn't a character actor, but is generally considered to bring real vulnerability to his action roles which is what separated him from other A-list leading men Take the scene where Hackman brings Smith to his secret lair: Smith's whole world is crashing down, his friend has been murdered, his family is in danger, and he's still doing the 'So I guess you don't have many friends round huh?', a moment which could be cut+paste from comedy Men in Black like he hasn't got a care in the world Smith never actually even wanted to be an actor, he only did the Fresh Prince of Bel Air because he needed the money to pay back taxes to the IRS and help him get back on his feet

Rose
>>167904043

Was it? I actually don’t remember. I didn’t like him then because I was more into Paul Walker RIP

Rose
>>167939023

Rescue 911! I remember that one too! As a kid I used to slide my feet on that part of the escalator thinking it was a game. That’s scary!